ty! i originally took the layout from this website https://bielzin.space/ but that website is not for all ages and it also doesn't support mobile. so i tried my best at trying to fix that without scraping code! (besides hotlink buttons and ad links)

W8.1 specifically gets too much hate. Base W8 though... that's still deserved imo. It was created out of fear of the iPad, not innovation of the desktop experience

windows 8 is so dear to me

i only buy vinyl records from ebay lol

I know where to waste my money now

Oh nice, because i need to look for a new computer terminal. My current one sucks ass lol

My second home is eBay, so we shall see.

*blinks my big-ass shiny eyes repeatedly*

Bluehush looks fantastic on there! lovely page

thanks!

I will still recommend this thing over any modern Windows laptop for the average person. the green color is cool, the EU-forced repairability is incredible, it can game surprisingly well when you torrent CrossOver, and I'm going to miss the battery life so badly. ...but we're Neocities users, of course we're destined for used Thinkpads! with Linux on them! even if the battery life isn't as good. I'm gonna miss that

pro tip if you're shopping for a used laptop btw: if you're like me and overwhelmed by how many Thinkpad models there are, put "X1" in your eBay or Swappa search. those are all the nice-looking thinner ones that aren't those giant chunky clunker Thinkpads that aren't portable at all. the silver color on the X1 Titanium Yoga is quite pretty I'm not gonna lie

Nah my GPD Win is great. Wouldn't go back to linux if it killed me not to. Still wouldn't use a mac either.

alternatively if you dont mind the bulkiness i will shill the P51 (and the P52 and P53) as that's what I use and i love this thing. 2.67 kilos of raw power

Funny I just got an ancient L520 and the battery life is incredible!! Whole 0 minutes of work!!!

(Btw don't hate my choice it was free lmao)

I was fortunate enough to get a new laptop (my old one was from 2017) from my Mom last christmas. It has been wonderful. God, I miss and love her.

Maybe as always if Apple abandon some old hardware there is a USB dongle to solve it?

Neos are pretty and I wish they worked with Linux.. apparently it will be possible but gonna take time because it's a new processor architecture... again.

Not long ago my main was a 2015 MacBook, that 12" ultra thin edition that they canceled soon and most people don't even remember. With Linux Mint. It looks so impressively and it was fast enough. Switching to a 2018 X1 was a huge upgrade though, more ports and upgradable SSD.

you know what I always say: https://hello-room.neocities.org/images/blender/apple_machines.mp4

I mean, Linux has its problems too, but I wouldn't voluntarily use Windows or MacOS.

i could be wrong but there should be a way to roll back an update, it's just not a simple task. i got my macbook pro in January and immediately rolled it back from Tahoe to sequioa lol

@skigothy I was able to rollback my old Macs by using Internet Recovery that installs the version of macOS that the system was shipped with. From there, you can update to whichever version you'd like to use.

I looked into it because everything was fine on Tahoe and now it's stuck on Golden Gate. apparently you have to re-image the entire laptop just to revert an OS update. I'd rather not sink any further into macOS, even though I really like how it never requires me to make an Apple ID account. looking at you Microsoft

@hippiejesus damn that was fast LOL. unfortunately that's not available for the newer macbooks, only the Intel ones

i thought you meant your Brothers printer and were just very formal with him. Big Brother is watching ahh

As an art school person, I'm always going to be a macbook baby. My macbook + ipad have a death grip on me. My macbook is seven years old and still happy BUT I regret updating the OS. The whole OS update shit is a pain. I hate it so much. The only way to revert back is to have Time Machine which depends on you already backing up your device (which everyone should be doing all the time). Huge L

I still thinking about move to Linux for future laptop, since having custom theme are more easier than windows system and modern windows is filled with unnecessary programs, after I begin to use windows 11 :/

This is exactly the type of perfectionist thinking that @lydels said in that blog post that everyone should avoid when making a site. Damn lmao

it comes for all eventually. well maybe not for me if getting a review out takes me half a year LMAO

Huh, but why though in the first place? I think its completely fine if somebody doesn't feel like continuing to work on their website but why should one be forced to do that if they otherwise still enjoy to continue to expand their website of content and changes?

Oh wait did you mean these are your feelings or that someone expressed those as how someone "should" eventually feel like? I think i misunderstood you.

No those are my feelings. I think it's okay for someone to stop working on their site, it just seems to also be a really dangerous state that is eventually followed by leaving Neocities altogether. Maybe those people found community elsewhere, maybe those people went back to social media to play the numbers game for attention again. The fear of accidentally taking steps to eventually disappear is still there

Sorry forgot to add: in this scenario, we're assuming someone who doesn't even want to add small changes or any content to a site anymore. Like you somehow entirely run out of things you want to say, which is the whole point of a personal site (Not saying we need to find a solution, I just want to openly talk about all this)

Ahh icic! ^^; I was very confused for a moment i thought someone was out-there encouraging people to quit making websites reached a specific number of visitors or followers. My bad!

No worries! This is also stemming from someone I've been trying to get into Neocities for months now. They're an artist, they've started learning HTML, they respect the process, and they want to be here. But they keep putting off finishing a site because they don't know what they actually want to say, which is completely fair The implication of being forgotten because you ran out of things to say is terrifying

That does resonate quite a lot with me too,, i also have a big fear of becoming forgotten, i kinda wish that i could interact with more people without having to make an effort to create content. Not everyone i've seen agrees to use the Neocities feed for going off-topic but i still do it because sometimes it makes me just a tiny bit less guilty from not having enough energy to do anything with my site 💔

Absolutely normal experience!!!!!!!! We all get there sometimes but i find that many people end up coming back and thats as important to understand. Like, truth is, sometimes you do something else , sometimes youre burnt out, sometimes you don't post for a year . But like, essentially, if you love neocities as a place, you will find yourself coming back to it again and again. I'd say, don't be afraid.

^ ive been on neocities for a couple of years lol trust me when i say it

That's a great way to put it, thank you!

i always find it crazy that some people are scared of not updating enough because i am scared of updating too often LOL i'm like omg im being such a nuisance n spamming everyone's feeds... but i just love updating... its not like i think you should force yourself to update if you dont want to though. only if perfectionism is the only thing stopping you from doing it

Everyone should make bullshit! but sometimes u need a break from making... i think im burnt out rn or something idk

I feel like I'm used to like that before decide to leave social media or something I forget...

what a giant mood on all of this post, esp as someone who hasn't properly updated in months... albeit it's due to heavy burnout (and pouring my energy elsewhere)

if you're feeling burnt out it's ok to take a break for other hobbies or to focus more on the social elements of the indie web. social media pressures everyone to go so fast, to have a constant stream of new stuff always. but good sites stay good whether they've been updated recently or not. I take breaks from working on my site, and come back when I feel excited about working on it again and it's fine.

this conversation is so fascinating, im thinking hard what it all means...

There's a fine balance of maintaining your current version of the site, adding new content, and tearing it all down and starting over that needs to be kept. I think often people get to a point on their site/project where it feels like the next logical step would be to do something that requires substantially more work than just adding content to the existing site, which is daunting and easy to want to avoid.

go play some games and watch some videos, i'm sure you'll get an idea for something to add sooner or later. A personal site may be the online reflection of "you", but it's not like the actual human with the ideas dissapears if you stop updating. Also, just a thought, maybe the tablings and free stickers are making your site in particular feel like a chore/job instead of a hobby?

somewhat echoing what others say here. i've very much slowed on updates but i still think about my site constantly, lack of updates mostly coming from getting rusty with HTML/CSS and mental focus on other things, online and irl. i just know i can always come back to my site, it'll still be there, and i'm always coming to neocities itself to see what others are up to/giving support to smaller sites i enjoy

I feared that myself when starting back work on my website. I don't even know *what* to say anymore as my direction has changed completely. I still want to keep my site updated, but can't find the time anymore since I've started other hobbies that also take time to master. Even if you stop working on your site, people will still find it and explore the work that's been done. Keeping a journal has helped a lot.

i wonder what a completely polished site looks like to people? personally, i would never truly 'finish' my site for good. i found that keeping a blog/archive on it is what keeps me updating it on a monthly basis. the internet is a cool place where you can share stuff with people and its fun to take advantage of that anyway, you should do what you want to do!

Thanks so much tabf5!!

yay!

Thanks for sharing 'cause this was gas.

why did i post that

Because there is a dog with the butter on it. Butter dog

Butter dog

dog wit da butter