tabf5
1 week ago
fantastic write-up! i am definitely guilty of building my site in private before making an account on here. it should be more encouraged on here to start with something ugly and focus on substance rather than aesthetics. the beauty of Neocities is that everyone's entire site can be enjoyed again and again instead of just their "latest updates" disappearing into the void. the coolest sites on here are the oldest ones
isntreal
1 week ago
i wish for every single new person on this platform to see this blog entry. this is such a "back in my day" thing to say but when i first joined 4 years ago it wasnt as bad as it is now. I honestly think it started becoming more about visuals at around the time i joined.
isntreal
1 week ago
sometimes i see such visually stunning sites and feel bad about myself for not learning more css, js, using a static site generator, and all that other shit that makes a website look good on the outside. this blog reminded me that thats not what im here for!! i dont even like coding fr i just like talking about stuff!!
notesfromearth
1 week ago
i think as much as we all come to the indie web with intentions to break free from the perfectionism and social practices of mainstream social media (and just modern internet culture), it still seeps back into how we end up using the indie web (call it conditioning)
silentshadow
1 week ago
as someone who just started 2 months ago, it's really refreshing to see the truth that I don't have to be perfect! I started coding in the neocities editor because... i didn't know how to code outside '-'. But in many ways, I'm glad I did, because that kind of gives a sort of life to my website I guess haha
nogginzmart
1 week ago
very well said! I also get bummed seeing an interesting looking site but...there's nothing else to really look in or enjoy! I think I spend most of my time on peoples pages reading their blogs, their media recommendations, or look at their art (if they're artists) It feels like I'm peeking into someone else's world & mind. It's nice & makes this place feel a whole lot more like a community rather than another-
imprimatura
1 week ago
love this write up... i think with any creative/artistic hobby there's always a desire for perfection or to make something "good enough" or "worth while", but especially with webdev ive seen that way less often! i think its very a very freeing creative outlet to just get thoughts/ideas out of your system without worrying about it too much. that's how i feel at least, i hope other people feel similarly :')
lydels
1 week ago
ty everyone for reading :D glad you guys feel the same way! i totally agree w you @isntreal i've only been around for two years but i also think that it wasn't this bad before :P it feels like more and more people are showing up who like the concept of having a cool website but dont have anything to say... which is okay ig i just dont really get the point of joining the indie web if thats the case
doorintosummer
1 week ago
100% everything you've said here. to assume people are doing things for aesthetics rather than substance is really not the right way to see things, since personal taste indeed looks different for everyone. but i admit that the amount of nostalgia-focused websites that all seem to follow the same format is a little bit concerning. there definitely has been an air of people wanting to prove themselves -
doorintosummer
1 week ago
in a way that defiles their actual voice. i think it's right to say that we're conditioned by the current state of the internet though. "just something that exists for the sake of catching your eye for a few seconds and moving on" is a great way to put it. it feels like there's a subconscious automatic response to dismiss things that aren't ''aesthetic'' so presentation has to carry things, not the content itself :(
lydels
1 week ago
ty for reading @doorintosummer!! i personally do think some people do things for aesthetics LOL. and honestly that could be cool if it came from a place of admiration and/or it was the purpose of the site itself (i've seen sites that specify which designers they take inspiration from and such and i respect that sorta work) but it doesnt really feel that way with most sites -
lydels
1 week ago
a lot of them seem to try to tick the same 3 nostalgia y2k boxes and call it a day and thats just exactly the sort of thing that at least *i* wanted to escape from when i started my website.. i just think we have enough stuff that exists just for the sake of looking cool anywhere else on the web. its awesome that this place allows nerdy and "ugly" things to shine and i hope it stays that way
lydels
2 weeks ago
woah why does the links page preview look like that 😭 that is Not how the page looks like
encounters-ltd
3 weeks ago
ooo didn't even realize you had an underscores fanlisting, that's cool ... perhaps i should start a six impala fanlisting to match
v0idspace
3 weeks ago
Thank you so much! i'm glad more people can relate, lol. Even when spotify was a new thing, i didn't want it back then. It never appealed to me.
lydels
4 weeks ago
version 2.0 of the musicians webring!! i think i outdid myself w this one yall im very proud of how this looks LOL totally worth neglecting my college responsibilities for (no)
juneflip
4 weeks ago
Holyyy, lydeeeels se ve muy geniaaaaaaaaaaal en serioo dios mioooooo, orgullosa de pertenecer en este webring siisisisisi
lydels
4 weeks ago
thank you finnyyyy :D the background is so you lol!! was immediatly reminded of your site when i saw it
lydels
1 month ago
updated the collection in the phoenix shrine check it out i think it looks pretty cute.... my love for this stupid band is bigger than anything in this God Damn World!!!!!!!!
new album of the month (got this one from a fellow webmaster's music recommendation page :P) + made a little webring/fanlisting directory!!
escuché el álbum del mes y me gustó un montón !! de a ratos me hacía acordar a quarrel de bar italia, ese álbum también me gustó mucho porque se sentía raro y no tan pulido como lo que sacaron más adelante; otro que me hace sentir así es uno que se llama セカイ系症候群末期患者へ que salió hace unos meses y es de mis cosas favoritas del año
y que lindo que vas a ver a underscores!! creo me gustaría ir el domingo del primavera que tocan también candelabro y machine girl pero no sé todavía xP
aaaa me alegro mucho que te haya gustadoo gracias por leer !! :D le voy a pegar una escuchada a los que dijiste, gracias por las recomendaciones! Y SI VOY A VER A UNDERSCORESSS ella también está el domingo así que si vas avisame y hacemos neocitiesjuntada (? me interesa ver a machine girl tambien!
skjdsj dalee te aviso si voy!! ojalá te guste alguno de esos álbumes !! :-) machine girl es genial, me tengo que poner al día con el último álbum que me quedo pendiente escucharlo :p