for related reasons i kinda balk at mobile hostility in web design. as many understandable gripes we have with smartphones, computers are usually more Expensive and a lot of people may not have the funds to spare to buy one, nor have easy access to public computers. and in my case i wouldn't want people to be shut out from my site just for not being able to use a desktop

you are completely right and it's honestly very saddening how hostile people are on the indieweb to mobile users. A simple "This site is not mobile accessible" would work just fine, but I've come across an uncomfortable number of sites that are like "fuck mobile users" "fuck you for using a mobile". Even if I'm on my desktop I click off immediately, it's such a nasty way to announce how inaccessible your site is

@buttermilkbear "fuck you if you cannot afford a computer, you don't deserve to view my website"

Slightly opposed to the "having a pc is classist" view, i think that buying a refurb laptop for 50 bucks and learning how to use debian on it is an act of resistance which is cheaper than, say, a new smartphone. I 100% agree with the accessibility part, hence my site has a switchable stripped-down mode. >>

But while making things accessible, we gotta keep pushing against smartphonization and not paint computers as something out-of-reach. Don't forget that part of the reason it's happening is cause statistically people make big purchases faster on a small screen, cause a PC is associated with seriousness, while a smartphone is more impulse zone. And companies *love* that

i donr make mobile view cuz i'm lazy and idk how=

i agree w astrosoundhell 100%... also, i actually made a mobile version of my site because i use it to share my work and i know mobile users will see it, but the truth is that most of us are here because we love building websites for desktop... i dont see why someone should be forced to limit their creativity to a tiny reactangle that doesnt align with their vision of what a website should be

it's not like i think websites shouldn't be mobile accesible, but rather i think it's like trying to accommodate a group of people that just isnt really there? if you're making websites or you're interested in them its probably because you have a computer