Tumblr is shooting itself in the foot harder and Bluesky is a panopticon... Wonder if indie spaces will get a resurgence again before everyone goes crawling back.
I don't use Tumblr for creativity but I'm really rattled by this update. This site is still retired but I have a draft in progress that should be done before the con.
it will take years and it will be slow. (if it does happen) people dont want to change, ive noticed people who hate elon musk that still use twitter. I see people who hate tumblr but use it anyway. Not a single one of these people have had the idea to move or make their own sites nor do they want to. It'll be slow, and it when it does happen people are going to be very unhappy about doing it. I love it, personally.
Why insisit on using social media anyways? If they cant follow you onto your own site are they truly fans of your work? Ive seen people switch to (starting from) deviantart, tumblr, twitter, bluesky, newgrounds, ect. All for their posts to be flooded with random reposts or tangents. I like myself a tangent. I like reading blogs, but why are you posting your important artwork,videos,ect, on someone elses site while
blogging? what do they even want out of these sites? I have tried to play with their fiddles and i couldnt keep contorting anymore. Humans have been creators since the dawn of creation yet we're forcing ourselves to ride with althorigms all while putting our neurons on display for every number you could imagine on your screen. It doesnt even have to be a real person. Its just the idea of one. All for someone elses
website and wallet, and you get their little shitdriplings of money while theyre making more than you could think you could ever imagine having in your life. Fantasies cant compare. Why even do it? What is the positive? I truly and deeply do not understand. I am a NOBODY. I am NOTHING. And even I have two dedicated fans that i have never met. And i do not post on social media anymore. What is the point? If i can do
This the way im doing it, everyone else could, too. And for people who are creating anything? They do not care. They will not care, if they did, they would've created something already. Something big will happen that will force everyone out of these sites, and the mess will not be fun. It is for the greater good. I am hopeful but i do not see it happening soon. Neocities needs longer comment limits.
I'm in the camp of using sites I dislike and it's mainly because it's where an actual community is. I get what you're saying but I don't really agree and even wrote my own "piece" about it. I don't expect anyone to agree, but I've dealt with unsuccessful migratons for 20 years and I'm over it. https://capyhaus.neocities.org/runes/exodus.html
i agree with ur post/page but i think you misunderstood my point, not saying for people to go to obscure sites (i cant even find any) im saying make your own, foster your own community. I agree, jumping to site is annoying and does not work. But if your main hub is someone elses social media site, what are you going to do if it gets deleted? Your fans and everything will be gone, you have no back up.
Its getting so bad ive been seeing people move to TELEGRAM!!!!!! TELEGRAM!!!!!!!!!!! Oh just make your own site at that point. This cat and mouse game needs to stop somewhere
This section is not good to hold an actual conversation but I don't agree with you. Frankly a short blurb wasn't the space for a rant from a complete stranger. Because I've also mentioned how difficult it is to try to build a community by myself, get people to make websites, etc. and nobody jumping on board.
Putting your eggs in one basket is the real issue. I have a site as an archive or creative sandbox and have some socmed sites to talk to people, because I want to be in communities instead of working on a page 3 people will see and not join in. I'm not responding to this thread anymore when it's hell to look at on mobile lol.
I don't use Tumblr for creativity but I'm really rattled by this update. This site is still retired but I have a draft in progress that should be done before the con.
unfortunately i don't think so - people can't function in a sandbox like environment ;_;
There's still spurts of activity and new people joining or coming back, it's just a matter of who sticks around.
it seems like tumblr staff has reversed the change already due to all the backlash, lol. it would still be cool to see a bit of migration, though
it will take years and it will be slow. (if it does happen) people dont want to change, ive noticed people who hate elon musk that still use twitter. I see people who hate tumblr but use it anyway. Not a single one of these people have had the idea to move or make their own sites nor do they want to. It'll be slow, and it when it does happen people are going to be very unhappy about doing it. I love it, personally.
Why insisit on using social media anyways? If they cant follow you onto your own site are they truly fans of your work? Ive seen people switch to (starting from) deviantart, tumblr, twitter, bluesky, newgrounds, ect. All for their posts to be flooded with random reposts or tangents. I like myself a tangent. I like reading blogs, but why are you posting your important artwork,videos,ect, on someone elses site while
blogging? what do they even want out of these sites? I have tried to play with their fiddles and i couldnt keep contorting anymore. Humans have been creators since the dawn of creation yet we're forcing ourselves to ride with althorigms all while putting our neurons on display for every number you could imagine on your screen. It doesnt even have to be a real person. Its just the idea of one. All for someone elses
website and wallet, and you get their little shitdriplings of money while theyre making more than you could think you could ever imagine having in your life. Fantasies cant compare. Why even do it? What is the positive? I truly and deeply do not understand. I am a NOBODY. I am NOTHING. And even I have two dedicated fans that i have never met. And i do not post on social media anymore. What is the point? If i can do
This the way im doing it, everyone else could, too. And for people who are creating anything? They do not care. They will not care, if they did, they would've created something already. Something big will happen that will force everyone out of these sites, and the mess will not be fun. It is for the greater good. I am hopeful but i do not see it happening soon. Neocities needs longer comment limits.
^for the people who *arent creating anything
Tumblr still existing at all anymore tells me everything i need to know about the future
I'm in the camp of using sites I dislike and it's mainly because it's where an actual community is. I get what you're saying but I don't really agree and even wrote my own "piece" about it. I don't expect anyone to agree, but I've dealt with unsuccessful migratons for 20 years and I'm over it. https://capyhaus.neocities.org/runes/exodus.html
I also was referring to a temporary spurt of activity, not a full move.
i agree with ur post/page but i think you misunderstood my point, not saying for people to go to obscure sites (i cant even find any) im saying make your own, foster your own community. I agree, jumping to site is annoying and does not work. But if your main hub is someone elses social media site, what are you going to do if it gets deleted? Your fans and everything will be gone, you have no back up.
Its getting so bad ive been seeing people move to TELEGRAM!!!!!! TELEGRAM!!!!!!!!!!! Oh just make your own site at that point. This cat and mouse game needs to stop somewhere
This section is not good to hold an actual conversation but I don't agree with you. Frankly a short blurb wasn't the space for a rant from a complete stranger. Because I've also mentioned how difficult it is to try to build a community by myself, get people to make websites, etc. and nobody jumping on board.
Putting your eggs in one basket is the real issue. I have a site as an archive or creative sandbox and have some socmed sites to talk to people, because I want to be in communities instead of working on a page 3 people will see and not join in. I'm not responding to this thread anymore when it's hell to look at on mobile lol.