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im surprised this hasn't happened to me yet lol

HUH??? That's possible? 😭

@hardmachine I AM NOT 100% SURE, I just often get shadowbanned after massive updates lol

Like, I get it, but as someone with epilpesy it means more to me that someone has gone out of their way to slow down a single gif or not include it because they know it can affect ppl like me than painting every gif with a broad brushstroke.

«But lots of moving gifs together can affect people who are sensitive to motion» okay then why are you including them all in the same place??

even unpopular accessibility needs are worth talking about imo. thanks for sharing yours

I get vertigo/nausea from motion playing on bad days and I find motion very distracting so the GIF toggles are incredibly helpful to me and saying they're useless is hurtful to those of us who find them helpful. Plus some people's epilepsy is triggered by large areas of motion like GIF walls (it happened on a Discord server I was on). It does help even if you might not be the target audience.

Also even knowing about what types of GIFs are harmful doesn't always help identify them, people make mistakes, and even automated systems make mistakes / glitch out. The best safety measure is to let the user decide whether to turn them on or not.

Also the "lots of moving gifs together" is why I wrote some code to individually activate GIFs by keyboard navigation or mouse hover. Not everyone will want to use it but personally I find it solves a few of the problems you mentioned with a "Animated All" button.

to expand on pixelglade's point, not really aimed at devils but more for anyone who sees this in general: motion accessibility doesn't begin and end with gifs. i'm not bothered by most gifs but fullscreen css animations like moving backgrounds are absolutely nauseating to me unless the movement is very, very slow. i do really wish those weren't so popular on here...

I think the takeaway here is that the toggles aren't the only step that should be taken to deal with GIFs. Yes, give the option so people have the choice, but you should also consider whether it's necessary to include them at all, and how to make them as safe as possible if they are needed. No single accessibility measure covers everyone, and sometimes needs conflict. Know your audience.