love that the terf webring pretends "we don't police your site" but then they can "reserve the right to remove and exclude sites at our discretion" and they have a "vetting process" that includes denying ppl with anti-terf rhetoric or that use "gender" and list pronouns lol
i'm not judging anyone who's not a terf for being a member considering they conveniently don't mention that in their rules or anything which is part of what annoys me about it. they're pretending to be an in general webring when really it was created for an agenda, then they wonder why members would get callouts. (not saying the callouts are always appropriate since, again, the webring tries to not be transparent)
anyway i'm not trying to make neocities about "politics", but i am down for people who are joining a webring to know what they're accidentally associating themselves with. my umbrage is that it's insidious to just not come out and say what your intentions are. i myself almost applied for membership and i would have been upset to only find out after the fact
i'm a cis woman who doesn't hate trans people and i am 30 or 40 years old and i do not need this. anyway if you're a member of women of the internet and wonder why people ask you if you're a terf it's bc it was created by and for terfs and you met their standards by not saying your pronouns or whatever
oh, and you're a member of it and a terf, good for you or w/e. but umbrage is unrelated ppl who aren't being associated with your rhetoric bc the mods are too chickenshit and insidious to publicly state what their intentions were in creating it
@ruralrose it's bc they don't acknowledge that they are publicly. it's not even an iykyk eye narrowing sitch on my end. the creator flat out said in a thread they made it for terfs, and that applicants are thoroughly checked to keep out "trannies/pronouns/scrotes." ie it's supposed to be a webring for cis women who don't believe trans women are women
oh and fun fact: they then turn and question why current members would be let in if they're "mogaitards" (a mix of a phrase coined by a pedophilic abuser and an ableist slur.) ie, they also like. shit on the women for not womaning the way they want them to. ✨ feminism ✨
OMG, I think I accidently joined the group and wasn't aware of it! I believe in trans right and wasn't aware that they were a TERF group! I feel so bad about joining! T_T
@pizzacatdelights i'm so sorry to hear that ): this is exactly what i'm so irritated about, folks accidentally being associated with rhetoric they don't follow. i imagine if you email them and respectfully ask if you can leave they'll comply
@strawberry-gashes and the funny thing about that is my about me page, does have a pronoun list and on my DNI section, TERFs was one of them. Surprised that they didn't see that! And I did send them email to delete my website and then blocked their email too.
@pizzacatdelights re: the acceptance that's interesting. about the email i wouldn't block so you can confirm stuff, i doubt you'd be contacted about anything other the removal
i'm not judging anyone who's not a terf for being a member considering they conveniently don't mention that in their rules or anything which is part of what annoys me about it. they're pretending to be an in general webring when really it was created for an agenda, then they wonder why members would get callouts. (not saying the callouts are always appropriate since, again, the webring tries to not be transparent)
anyway i'm not trying to make neocities about "politics", but i am down for people who are joining a webring to know what they're accidentally associating themselves with. my umbrage is that it's insidious to just not come out and say what your intentions are. i myself almost applied for membership and i would have been upset to only find out after the fact
i'm a cis woman who doesn't hate trans people and i am 30 or 40 years old and i do not need this. anyway if you're a member of women of the internet and wonder why people ask you if you're a terf it's bc it was created by and for terfs and you met their standards by not saying your pronouns or whatever
i did not even know that a terf webring exists
oh, and you're a member of it and a terf, good for you or w/e. but umbrage is unrelated ppl who aren't being associated with your rhetoric bc the mods are too chickenshit and insidious to publicly state what their intentions were in creating it
@ruralrose it's bc they don't acknowledge that they are publicly. it's not even an iykyk eye narrowing sitch on my end. the creator flat out said in a thread they made it for terfs, and that applicants are thoroughly checked to keep out "trannies/pronouns/scrotes." ie it's supposed to be a webring for cis women who don't believe trans women are women
oh and fun fact: they then turn and question why current members would be let in if they're "mogaitards" (a mix of a phrase coined by a pedophilic abuser and an ableist slur.) ie, they also like. shit on the women for not womaning the way they want them to. ✨ feminism ✨
OMG, I think I accidently joined the group and wasn't aware of it! I believe in trans right and wasn't aware that they were a TERF group! I feel so bad about joining! T_T
a great alternative "webring for anyone and everyone who identifies themselves as a woman": https://ladiesofthe.link/
I forgot about the femcel webring ahah
@pizzacatdelights i'm so sorry to hear that ): this is exactly what i'm so irritated about, folks accidentally being associated with rhetoric they don't follow. i imagine if you email them and respectfully ask if you can leave they'll comply
also: nobody feel bad if you joined and weren't aware. it's on them for not just being upfront. you were essentially tricked into associating with it
@strawberry-gashes and the funny thing about that is my about me page, does have a pronoun list and on my DNI section, TERFs was one of them. Surprised that they didn't see that! And I did send them email to delete my website and then blocked their email too.
welp. i wrote an article on it https://neocities-users.dreamwidth.org/1715.html
@lostletters that link unfortunately doesn't work for me
@pizzacatdelights re: the acceptance that's interesting. about the email i wouldn't block so you can confirm stuff, i doubt you'd be contacted about anything other the removal