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win1999
1 month ago
It's not only the issue of Model Autophagy Disorder (AI feeding on itself), but new generations of artists who rely on generative AI instead learning the skillsets that gen AI replaces. It's not too dissimilar from the skillsets of yesteryear that began with modernization, and ended with not only obsolescence, but outright extinction..
win1999
1 month ago
You ask the: "motive of people who want ALL artists to use gen AI". You ARE familiar with the model of capitalism right? Growth for growth's sake? It's not like these are artists, scholars and scientists preaching us to use this technology. It is commercially fueled by a capitalist model, whose sole purpose is to make more money than last year, at all costs.
underwhite
1 month ago
@win1999 some people on the internet think that, and I do not know capitalism, sorry.. most schools are now having ai in their curriculum so AI is constantly being shoved down our throats for some reason, and also there are still bound to be artists not using gen ai in the near future, so gen ai is not gonna take over, because if it did. it would collapse due to it feeding on itself, as you said.
glowflix
1 month ago
the only purpose I would see for these gen AI companies is that they're able to help higher-ups dilute what's considered real and fake. like, they're starting to develop relatively quickly where it's difficult to spot the difference between what's an real image taken by a person compared to an algorithm generated false information. same thing with research papers; kurzgesagt made a video on how AI's affected them
glowflix
1 month ago
there is good news to this though, AI models build off of thousands of terabytes of information and can't progress without more data, hence data centers. eventually it will hit a ceiling where it can't progress anymore due to a lack of information. it just sucks though bc it pushes them to make titanic-sized AI data centers which affects so so so many people
underwhite
1 month ago
@glowflix yeah I agree, they will hit it sooner since so many gen ai models will consume ai (if they stick to rules they have now, which suck.), leading to the bubble finally popping by the needle (which will destroy the economy, dang..) I can't even build a pc anymore, why is ram so expensive?? (I know why btw) I do like the process of art so that's why I haven't turned to ai yet, and that it's bad for nature.
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I never really imagined you with a human gender but instead as a small musician in a computer
would make for a cool deltarune oc actually