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onio updated Onio Chat

10 hours ago

Onio Chat

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chattable

14 hours ago

An important update for all chat owners: https://iframe.chat/updates/article/shutdown-info.html

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chattable 14 hours ago

tfw i uploaded with no article title. nice. fixing now

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rampkins 14 hours ago

I don't use it personally, but isn't that a damn shame

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kyrn0v 12 hours ago

So sorry this is happening. You will figure it out I know it :]

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finalfantasyix 9 hours ago

thanks so much for all the work you've put into maintaining chattable for so long. very sad to see it go :(

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tommypanzram 8 hours ago

Totally fair and understandable update. Hate that it got to this point but you have a solid project that is really well made. Not for nothing, but have you ever considered making the back end a docker container for users to have the option for self-hosting? Might sound like overkill but I'm having a hard time finding an alternative. The simplicity of yours isn't really matched and that's what I like most about it.

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ne0nbandit 8 hours ago

Thank you for the update :( I'm sorry stuff has been so rough to maintain.. You mentioned downgrading to the free plan database and I'm wondering if maybe there could be a way the admin could host their own database? At least to aleviate some of that burden

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ne0nbandit 8 hours ago

I perfectly understand if this would require a lot of code rewriting and whatnot though!

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sugarfantasies 7 hours ago

such a shame seeing this go, hope it gets better. Is there a way to donate? Because I know if i could i would

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kirbydogs 6 hours ago

Please open the donations back up. I wish to help you out, even if it isn't with Chattable.

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sanji 5 hours ago

thank you for all your hard work :( i'm sorry things have had to turn out this way

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chattable 1 hour ago

@tommypanzram unfortunately dockerization isn't a viable alternative. While it would work to clone most of Chattable you'd still need to setup a Firebase account with specific configurations across auth & rtdb, and then you'd need to edit front & backend code to point everything to the new database. Which isn't something I plan to provide support on

onio updated Onio Chat

1 day ago

Onio Chat

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fryman2599 updated Cheese and Chili Peppers

3 days ago

guptatown/content/transportation.html

guptatown/content/about(1).html

guptatown/content/worldmap/map.html

guptatown/index.html

guptatown/content/about.html

Cheese and Chili Peppers

fryman2599 2 days ago

I just realized i have no idea what's goes on in a city website im blanking on what to write for Gupta Town

fryman2599

4 days ago

Hello! Happy New Year! I have updated everything on my website, it is still a work in progress but I thought it was okay enough to publish. I hope you enjoy a lot.

fryman2599 4 days ago

The original homepage is available at https://fryman2599.neocities.org/v2/

onio updated Onio Chat

4 days ago

Onio Chat

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onio win1999

4 days ago

I found a video about that $800,000 laptop :0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VERUK_gMLkU

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win1999 4 days ago

That video was serious. Despite the fact that they fried a component of the screen, possibly, I'm still in awe of the skills to do that level of repair work. Thank you for sharing :)

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message

5 days ago

Hey guys where are we gonna chat while Nightscape is down? 👀

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onio 4 days ago

https://cyberspace.online

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onio

5 days ago

Onio.cafe has temporarily transitioned to an alternative chatroom service until Chattable recovers from an attack. Wishing Andrew the best with recovering full Chattable functionality!

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onio 5 days ago

Cakebot has been sent on a vacation, hopefully he returns less grumpy about cake.

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greenapl 4 days ago

cool picture yo

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onio 4 days ago

ty it makes me feel like a kid again

win1999 4 days ago

Obligatory Comic Sans fact: The font was designed specifically for Microsoft Bob, but didnt make the deadline to be included and was left out.

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onio 1 day ago

@win1999 why is that so funny to me, it's like he missed his seat on the bus

chattable

6 days ago

A user with the email criansari3@gmail.com (IP: 67.190.30.191) has been attacking our Firebase database relentlessly for weeks now. Since the new year, attacks have ramped up and accrued costs of $7.50 in just 3 days. At that rate, it would be expected that it would cost $75/month to keep the database online. Being that Chattable is a free project funded by my own paycheck, this is unsustainable.

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chattable 6 days ago

The database will remain down until further notice.

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tommypanzram 6 days ago

Cloudflare an option you're open to? I know their free plan has ddos protection.

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tommypanzram 6 days ago

Also, Discord?

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kyrn0v 6 days ago

NOOO I was just planning to add a chatbox :<

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win1999 6 days ago

Have you reached out to Google/Firebase on the matter? Can't you ban their IP/email?

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chattable 6 days ago

I have reached out to Firebase, the attacker has been jumping VPNs since their home IP was leaked. Firebase won't do anything, Firebase also can't be looped through cloudfare, the server is fine but the database is hosted by Firebase which offers no spam protection

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chattable 6 days ago

The only real option is to prevent the public from reading chat data directly from the database and loop all read requests through my server. I did this with writes when I switched to a backend. So expect a similar amount of downtime since then

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win1999 6 days ago

Hmmm. You could 1) Firebase App Check. A good way to block scripts/bots regardless of their VPN 2) Backend Proxy. Moving reads to your backend, and then you could use Cloudfare Free Bot Shield 3) UID Ban in Rules. Hardcode a "deny" in your security rules? Firebase wont charge for requests blocked by rules.

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kirbydogs 6 days ago

* This Immovable Object Must Be: Terminated * I Don't Have Any Cages LMAO

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kiwimeowo 6 days ago

I thought I messed up my code, but it's apparently broken on all of chattable? I hope this issue will be resolved soon, good luck!

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kuroi 6 days ago

Can someone please explain to me why, WHY is someone attacking a free chat tool FOR WEEKS? Hope you can sort this out soon :/

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chattable 6 days ago

The following steps will be to migrate from Firebase and fully host the database on my server. Bear with me, as it will be a lengthy process leaving Firebase. If you need any data (chat data or account data) from our database (or want it removed) email us

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onio 5 days ago

So sorry Andrew :/

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everythingkris 5 days ago

Why the flip would somebody attack a free service like this? Sorry you have to go through this Andrew.

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lindley 5 days ago

so sorry this is happening!! hope you can figure it out soon, big chattable fan over here :)

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chattable 5 days ago

To put into perspective, with tens of thousands of users costs usually float around $0.03/day or $0.40/month for the database alone. I also have to maintain server costs, domain costs, private email costs, and more

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tommypanzram 5 days ago

What would 1 year of operations costs be for you, all things considered?

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chattable 5 days ago

Without the attacks, all costs considered rounds up to about $810/yr ($65/mo for my server, $15 for yearly domain registration, $15 for email, and $10 maybe for database costs) however, with attacks inflating costs for Firebase due to excessive logins & reads, that adds $75/mo which adds another $900 annually. Not something I'd ask the public to fund. It's best to solve the problem than succumb and pay.

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chattable 5 days ago

That's only to mention $75 at the current rate of attacks, if an attacker had more machines they could exponentially inflate these numbers even more

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phelah 4 days ago

Oh hey wait, are you sure you should've put their Ip and email publicly here? Not trying to accuse you of anything I'm just curious if putting this information could lead to people finding them. It doesn't make sense why somebody would attack a free service like this, I'm genuinly curious why.

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tommypanzram 4 days ago

Holy crap, dude please set up a patreon or other monthly contribution page. A reward could be as simple as access to a community discord. I admire you for providing a free service, but you don't have to take on that financial burdon to provide it. I know you have a ko-fi link on your page but a $1 per month subscription seems like it could be more reliable than a one-time $10 donation.

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pastel-skies 3 days ago

Shiiii I thought Chattable was just broken, knowing a bad apple has been DDosing Chattable is just vile... hoping you can find a way to fix this mess, even if it means donating to help!

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doggyhell 2 days ago

sorry to hear youve been dealing with hell for no reason besides someone deciding to be malicious. we appreciate your free service dev!

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chattable 1 day ago

ETA: I have no timeline for this. With a change of work hours last year and a lack of motivation on my days off, paired with the amount of time & effort required to rewrite as much as I need to (to patch the abusable exploit) I just can not faithfully provide an ETA. It could be days, or months.

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kirbydogs chattable

6 days ago

UEE HEE HEE! THE CHATTABLE IS BROKEN, BROKEN!!! THE [[Free Chat]] IS BROKE!! OH, DEARIE, THE CHATTING PLATFORM IS BROKEN! HEE HEE HEE! YOU REALLY ARE AN IDIOT! Update: Oh not attacks >:| god it's that stupid brat isn't it (also why is Flowey here?)

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