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An important update for all chat owners: https://iframe.chat/updates/article/shutdown-info.html
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A stream of consciousness flows forth onto the blog written during the wee hours of the morning the 3rd of January when the US attack on Venezuela was still brand new news.
I found a video about that $800,000 laptop :0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VERUK_gMLkU
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win1999
7 months ago
That video was serious. Despite the fact that they fried a component of the screen, possibly, I'm still in awe of the skills to do that level of repair work. Thank you for sharing :)
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Hey guys where are we gonna chat while Nightscape is down? 👀
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Onio.cafe has temporarily transitioned to an alternative chatroom service until Chattable recovers from an attack. Wishing Andrew the best with recovering full Chattable functionality!
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win1999
7 months ago
Obligatory Comic Sans fact: The font was designed specifically for Microsoft Bob, but didnt make the deadline to be included and was left out.
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A user with the email criansari3@gmail.com (IP: 67.190.30.191) has been attacking our Firebase database relentlessly for weeks now. Since the new year, attacks have ramped up and accrued costs of $7.50 in just 3 days. At that rate, it would be expected that it would cost $75/month to keep the database online. Being that Chattable is a free project funded by my own paycheck, this is unsustainable.
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tommypanzram
7 months ago
Cloudflare an option you're open to? I know their free plan has ddos protection.
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win1999
7 months ago
Have you reached out to Google/Firebase on the matter? Can't you ban their IP/email?
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chattable
7 months ago
I have reached out to Firebase, the attacker has been jumping VPNs since their home IP was leaked. Firebase won't do anything, Firebase also can't be looped through cloudfare, the server is fine but the database is hosted by Firebase which offers no spam protection
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chattable
7 months ago
The only real option is to prevent the public from reading chat data directly from the database and loop all read requests through my server. I did this with writes when I switched to a backend. So expect a similar amount of downtime since then
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win1999
7 months ago
Hmmm. You could 1) Firebase App Check. A good way to block scripts/bots regardless of their VPN 2) Backend Proxy. Moving reads to your backend, and then you could use Cloudfare Free Bot Shield 3) UID Ban in Rules. Hardcode a "deny" in your security rules? Firebase wont charge for requests blocked by rules.
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kiwimeowo
7 months ago
I thought I messed up my code, but it's apparently broken on all of chattable? I hope this issue will be resolved soon, good luck!
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kuroi
7 months ago
Can someone please explain to me why, WHY is someone attacking a free chat tool FOR WEEKS? Hope you can sort this out soon :/
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chattable
7 months ago
The following steps will be to migrate from Firebase and fully host the database on my server. Bear with me, as it will be a lengthy process leaving Firebase. If you need any data (chat data or account data) from our database (or want it removed) email us
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everythingkris
7 months ago
Why the flip would somebody attack a free service like this? Sorry you have to go through this Andrew.
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lindley
7 months ago
so sorry this is happening!! hope you can figure it out soon, big chattable fan over here :)
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chattable
7 months ago
To put into perspective, with tens of thousands of users costs usually float around $0.03/day or $0.40/month for the database alone. I also have to maintain server costs, domain costs, private email costs, and more
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chattable
7 months ago
Without the attacks, all costs considered rounds up to about $810/yr ($65/mo for my server, $15 for yearly domain registration, $15 for email, and $10 maybe for database costs) however, with attacks inflating costs for Firebase due to excessive logins & reads, that adds $75/mo which adds another $900 annually. Not something I'd ask the public to fund. It's best to solve the problem than succumb and pay.
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chattable
7 months ago
That's only to mention $75 at the current rate of attacks, if an attacker had more machines they could exponentially inflate these numbers even more
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phelah
7 months ago
Oh hey wait, are you sure you should've put their Ip and email publicly here? Not trying to accuse you of anything I'm just curious if putting this information could lead to people finding them. It doesn't make sense why somebody would attack a free service like this, I'm genuinly curious why.
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tommypanzram
7 months ago
Holy crap, dude please set up a patreon or other monthly contribution page. A reward could be as simple as access to a community discord. I admire you for providing a free service, but you don't have to take on that financial burdon to provide it. I know you have a ko-fi link on your page but a $1 per month subscription seems like it could be more reliable than a one-time $10 donation.
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pastel-skies
7 months ago
Shiiii I thought Chattable was just broken, knowing a bad apple has been DDosing Chattable is just vile... hoping you can find a way to fix this mess, even if it means donating to help!
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doggyhell
7 months ago
sorry to hear youve been dealing with hell for no reason besides someone deciding to be malicious. we appreciate your free service dev!
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chattable
7 months ago
ETA: I have no timeline for this. With a change of work hours last year and a lack of motivation on my days off, paired with the amount of time & effort required to rewrite as much as I need to (to patch the abusable exploit) I just can not faithfully provide an ETA. It could be days, or months.
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UEE HEE HEE! THE CHATTABLE IS BROKEN, BROKEN!!!
THE [[Free Chat]] IS BROKE!!
OH, DEARIE, THE CHATTING PLATFORM IS BROKEN!
HEE HEE HEE! YOU REALLY ARE AN IDIOT!
Update: Oh not attacks >:| god it's that stupid brat isn't it (also why is Flowey here?)
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happy 3 years of onio cafe! oh, and HAPPY NEW YEAR!
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tfw i uploaded with no article title. nice. fixing now
I don't use it personally, but isn't that a damn shame
So sorry this is happening. You will figure it out I know it :]
thanks so much for all the work you've put into maintaining chattable for so long. very sad to see it go :(
Totally fair and understandable update. Hate that it got to this point but you have a solid project that is really well made. Not for nothing, but have you ever considered making the back end a docker container for users to have the option for self-hosting? Might sound like overkill but I'm having a hard time finding an alternative. The simplicity of yours isn't really matched and that's what I like most about it.
Thank you for the update :( I'm sorry stuff has been so rough to maintain.. You mentioned downgrading to the free plan database and I'm wondering if maybe there could be a way the admin could host their own database? At least to aleviate some of that burden
I perfectly understand if this would require a lot of code rewriting and whatnot though!
such a shame seeing this go, hope it gets better. Is there a way to donate? Because I know if i could i would
Please open the donations back up. I wish to help you out, even if it isn't with Chattable.
thank you for all your hard work :( i'm sorry things have had to turn out this way
@tommypanzram unfortunately dockerization isn't a viable alternative. While it would work to clone most of Chattable you'd still need to setup a Firebase account with specific configurations across auth & rtdb, and then you'd need to edit front & backend code to point everything to the new database. Which isn't something I plan to provide support on
thanks for all the fun times, im will miss you chattable :(
I am really glad to see that Chattable will continue! Downgrading to a free tier plan is kinda genius.
Oh my god, this makes me so sad :( Chattable was such an amazing service and it's so sad to see that some people just want to ruin everything for no reason.
We are approaching some hard monthly limits. The first 3 days of January consumed 85% of the monthly hard limit for resources. Chattable will have to stretch the remaining 15% of resources for the rest of the month to remain online
To alleviate this, new accounts are disabled. This means no person can sign up and new anonymous users can't read chats. This will be reverted next month.
your project was the best free chat to use i really hope this doesnt mean the end...
Thank you for the incredible work you've done on this project over the years. It's a shame that bad actors have ruined such a great resource. We will support you in your future endeavors either way!