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zhongvie
1 month ago
no even april (xkit's maker) literally posted like 'sorry not even xkit can fix this' LOL
starry-faun
1 month ago
oof...let's hope they end up backpedaling on this then with the amount of backlash they seem to be getting
zhongvie
1 month ago
:skull: i have low hopes of them backpedalling ... would be an actual miracle if somehow it does work but im not holding my breath. seriously, what a useless update tho, i dont see the point of it
y2kstardust
1 month ago
YEAH... i'm so tired of this. hoping the backlash makes them rethink it but i will 100% be using this to plug neocities as an alternative jic i lose ANOTHER FUCKING PLATORM :')
harakanvarpu
1 month ago
They have addressed the strong reaction from people, so I hope they'll at the very least make it an optional thing the OP of each post can choose to use or not. Better send them feedback through. The more feedback, the more likely they will listen.
zhongvie
1 month ago
it basically ‘builds’ your site for you, and it easier to reuse chunks/templates without having to rewrite entire code portions or using javascript to do it (like my site rn uses javascript to spit out my header/sidebar/footer, 11ty does it for you instead)
zhongvie
1 month ago
it definitely is a bit of a learning curve right now even for me, but it also makes it easier to make pages; i could write a page is just markdown, add a couple doodads like telling 11ty ‘hey can you use my normal site template?’ and it’ll just build and spit the site out with all the proper HTML + your markdown into proper HTML text
zhongvie
1 month ago
wow i should not write when half asleep bahaha. petrapixel has a pretty thorough tutorial on it, but it’s definitely a learning curve rn to kinda understand what i can do, can’t, and how the fuck some other stuff works. it’s why i avoided 11ty until now since im wanting to redo my layout/gut my site from 0
harakanvarpu
1 month ago
Ooh, okay, sounds cool! Probably too fancy for me atm but I'm eager to hear how it works for you :D
zhongvie
1 month ago
sorry yall on my weird rambling journey rn LMAO, it makes it easier to offload thoughts here since it IS website specific
tofutush
1 month ago
i used a huge-ass json file for my characters, but as the count grew theres a huge maintenance overhead and generally doing that decreases flexibility. so i dont super recommend it? (i ended up writing a whole ass custom program for me to edit the json)
tofutush
1 month ago
but gallery with json is super nice, you can filter & include images and put them anywhere (one gallery.json and one gallery.liquid (or .njk) and you call the include file with any part of the gallery you wish!) ive a blog post on this iirc
zhongvie
1 month ago
sighs debating if i should put lil 'sections' around chunks like i have it on my site now, or leave it bare bones ... (though it makes it a little harder to differentiate sections)
zhongvie
1 month ago
sighs i’m still very torn. this layout makes it harder to have all my lil dinkies and pixels and lil fun sidebar of stuff … grr i’ll continue pondering. maybe i should try to 11ty my current layout as well for funsies. yada yada head full it’s 3am
zhongvie
1 month ago
nvm i’ve figured out how to get the lil mini sidebar… damn it’s that fuckin easy to just have a ‘if this variable is true then include this’ in a template????? it does shrink my main content down a bit for the index but eh, my current layout already does that…
zhongvie
1 month ago
problem is i tend to use the same layout, its more for one off tiny things like… my games layout on my about page or the table i use on my bookmarks :think:
zhongvie
1 month ago
IT USES THE STUPID FILE NAME AND NOT THE OUTPUT VARIABLE U GIVE IT???? im gonna explode. THATS ALL IT NEEDED WAS TO MAKE SURE ITS THE FILE NAME OF THE JS FILE??????
zhongvie
1 month ago
AUGH NVM this is useless since it only refreshes when i build it. i guess i'll just need to rawdog it back to HTML/JS for THAT at least
tofutush
1 month ago
wait does it not auto update when you save the file? are you serving it or just building it?
zhongvie
1 month ago
no auto updating, i’m just rawdogging it rn in a folder to just muck with it and building it
tofutush
1 month ago
come in the cult... (yeah honestly idk how to handle one-off styles either i just plop them into the page so the end result has a style tag in the middle of main lol
skep
1 month ago
Hmm, for one-off style tags... my first thought is moving each to its own CSS file, then specifying in the front matter of the page if it should pull in a different CSS. Could be better ways, but yeah, kinda tricky.
zhongvie
1 month ago
hmm ... i'll have to fuck around ... idm plopping in the style tags but it is a minor annoyance if so, i usually try to avoid too many CSS files if i can :skull:
zhongvie
1 month ago
mayhaps ... this is more to scratch an itch rn of wanting to rehaul LMAOO and me avoiding that by just making a layout for funsies
zhongvie
1 month ago
sighs if i do decide to try a rehaul maybe it’ll give me an excuse to begin with 11ty from the beginning
gremlin
1 month ago
I'm constantly fighting the urge to make my site into simple html documents with little to no css so I get it lol
zhongvie
1 month ago
what an actual mood too LMAOOO cursed to want uniqueness/fun things but then the simplicity of not finangling with css and js…
ch3sca
1 month ago
what if you give the devil a new canvas and let it run wild? (perhaps create a separate new site) :>
zhongvie
1 month ago
no energy to maintain two, but i may end up making a new project thru my code editor and just muck around w/prototyping a layout in that for funsies 🤔
zhongvie
1 month ago
maybe i'll try to remake my fave tumblr theme im currently using but as an actual site layout and not a tumblr layout (kinda in the same vein my layout is rn for my own blog, but just a bit different)
nicegirlslumber
1 month ago
This literally happens to me the millisecond I'm finished with my site 😭🤛
floralchai
1 month ago
I'm gonna keep my layout like that honestly. Only fixed a few things that needed to be update
angelnetcast
1 month ago
this is why i made my layouts site, so i could make new layouts w/o having to mess w stuff on my site but letting others use it so they don't gather dust :p
silliestgoose-online
1 month ago
I think it's fine. Shouting out our friends' good work is something I support at least :p
zhongvie
1 month ago
bahaha to explain im usually just very self critical abt promoting myself on personal things, it always feels very weird to me ... but since it's my friend and i want her to succeed as an author, it's why im like ... thonk. i know its my own site after all, im just musing out loud
zhongvie
1 month ago
@silliestgoose-online thank u... mostly just thinking out loud more than anything!!!
monsterousseas
1 month ago
i made a lil section promoing my friends on my neighbors page. how i think of it is that a big part of the indie web is removing the need for an algorithm, and this is a great way to direct people to other content they may like in an intentional, human way!
plushspace
1 month ago
Why would it be weird to promote something you like on your own website (´・ω・)
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omg I wasted so much of my day reblogging and leaving comments and sending them emails. I'm so tired lol
thank god, actual worst update ever
i do not entirely trust it tbh, the "we'll work on it and get back to you" phrasing doesnt fill me with confidence. but im glad the walked it back for now at least!
oh yeah i have zero trust in them anyway so im squint side-eyeing them but im genuinely surprised they rolled it back LMFAO i was so sure theyd cover their ears and dig their heels in
Honestly I can see them rolling it back if not from the pushback but from how many things it broke! And with enough people threatening to leave and putting a dent into what money they were earning off of them...yeah. "At least" their tone is clear that they will continue down this path again, just differently