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rbuchanan
1 year ago
It's redolent of its age, but drives me nuts. Personally, I'm thankful for orthoepic reforms.
rbuchanan
1 year ago
English is certainly less wild and wooly than it was, but the French would rightly sneer at this notion that our (frankly demented) orthography is especially consistent.
cidoku
1 year ago
Oh it drives me nuts too. Maybe that's why I dig it. It's an intellectual exercise. Is that a long s or an f? Yeah.
rbuchanan
1 year ago
I tried to read Canterbury Tales in its (semi-reconstructed) Middle English years ago. Your longanimity exceeds mine by leagues.
ongezell
1 year ago
It's really interesting to compare the evolution of our languages across the ages, I think the earliest de facto Portuguese text I found was from the twelfth-century and it's completely readable, especially if you also know a bit of Spanish. I would say that Galician it's pretty close to what Portuguese was at that time, I mean, we were Galician-Portuguese after all
ongezell
1 year ago
and even before that we had vulgar Latin which is also surprisingly understandable
rbuchanan
1 year ago
What's also remarkable is the persisting mutual intelligibility of those, along with Fala and Eonavian. Then compare them (and esp. their grammar) to Catalan....!
rbuchanan
1 year ago
Considering that its incomparably immane lexicon eventuated mostly from amalgamation and agglutination, the convoluted developments of English diachrony seem almost modest. After the slow merger of Anglo-Saxon with Anglo-Norman, vast lexical influxions from 20+ languages over not quite a millennium resulted in less inflectional reduction than that of simpler languages (as Mandarin) over half that span.
ongezell
1 year ago
All latin based languages are in a certain way highly mutually intelligible, at least textual form. with the exception of Romanian I think, that became a Slavic romance language of sorts. I was reading about this interesting constructed language called Romance Neolatino, It sounds soooooooo good and it's highly intelligible for romance speakers. I hope it gets some attention
rbuchanan
1 year ago
Admittedly, Neolatin is appealing and agreeably dulcet -- much better than Esperanto! Romanian's grammar (notwithstanding enclitic definite articles) and verbal vocabulary are impeccably romance, but that Slavic influence in its nominal vocab. and phonology is unshakable. Nota bene: Romanians only fully jettisoned Cyrillic a century ago.
rbuchanan
1 year ago
Your mention of mutual intelligibility reminded me of an amusing moment from "Sleuth," which I recently reviewed. Late in the third act, Michael Caine proffers a clue in Italian to frantic Laurence Olivier, who despises Italians but is conversant in Latin, by which he fenziedly deciphers the hinting epigram by tracing its cognates. >:P
ongezell
1 year ago
They made internet a service where we are the products for advertisers, doesn't help google basically monopolizing the internet as well with their engine
cidoku
1 year ago
Let's give total control of the WWW to an ad company. What could go wrong? It's my belief that this all started with the WHATWG and the development of HTML5; this is the vital moment that gave g**gle its dominant role on the WWW today. They were developing the standards, so it's obvious that they'd make the best browser! They know how to play the long game.
cidoku
1 year ago
We control what you see: Search engines. We control how you see it: Standards and web engines. How are you going to go against us?
ongezell
1 year ago
yeah, still, that's the mainstream web, the web still a protocol everyone can use and improve upon, obviously, if we go our separated from the mainstream we will lose the benefits that made us too accommodated but at the end of the day it's us vs them, fuck big tech. I would rather have small circle just like the early web than what we have nowadays
rbuchanan
1 year ago
A quarter-century ago, corporations and the subhuman marketers who they employ determined that the Internet should be like teevee: crammed with obnoxious and ubiquitous ads, and all manner of trashy glut. The results speak for themselves.
rbuchanan
1 year ago
The W3C is so brazenly perfidious that I'm stupefied that anyone is still using their shitty, needless validators. Use weblint.
rbuchanan
1 year ago
The Eye and Anna's Archive comprehend massive literary resources, good companions to Gutenberg. Thanks!
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