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I thought that you might be interested in doing a piece about this on the blog portion of the Reading Project. I've noticed over the past year or so that there are a lot of low quality e-books showing up on Amazon in particular - you can usually tell them because the author doesn't have a fantastic fiction page about them and their books, and they usually have
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bright-eyes's avatar bright-eyes 9 months ago

a series of books which have a lot of books in them in an inconceivably short period of time. https://www.404media.co/ai-generated-slop-is-already-in-your-public-library-3/

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readingproject's avatar readingproject 9 months ago

I've been noticing ads pop up on my feed promoting 'AI' programs that will get your novel written in the afternoon so you can have it published and selling by dinner, sort-of-thing. I made comment about this sort of thing in the sidebar for a recent review on Richard Osman's We Solve Murders. It's a depressing situation

readingproject's avatar readingproject 9 months ago

I've just finished reading the article. It's really terrible. I hadn't thought about the issue librarians face, of trying to curate their collections and the problems of paying to use low-quality AI-produced material that is not clearly labelled as AI generated. I was speaking to several authors last year who were also depressed about how this is changing their industry

bright-eyes's avatar bright-eyes 9 months ago

It is. I first came across the problem with Kindle e-books because I looked up some that looked interesting and then when I opened the page, they were badly written. There are several apps that e-mail kindle book suggestions to you which you can download for free, or low cost and I suspect that most of those are AI generated, or at least poorly written and edited. I now only buy/download kindle books from authors I

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bright-eyes's avatar bright-eyes 9 months ago

recognize. It is frustrating as a reader and it's probably equally as frustrating for authors, especially new ones because people will be reluctant to buy/read their work. In some ways, I wished I'd bought a different e-reader because I don't see the same problem associated with other e-readers, and kindle unlimited isn't that useful.

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readingproject's avatar readingproject 9 months ago

I had an ereader many years ago but didn't enjoy the experience. Reading old fashioned books mitigates this problem to a large degree. But I can see scenarios, long-term, where even that could be affected.

I've created new download and site map pages for my site today. Yet again however, the update has not appeared in my feed. It is possible that it is being suppressed/censored by Neocities now because I stated my intent to change hosts on ethical grounds. That wouldn't surprise me at this point. Regardless though, my future is brighter by the day now. As always, I am wishing you all all the best in your own endeavors!
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badgraph1csghost's avatar badgraph1csghost 9 months ago

I don't think it's censorship, since it would probably be easier to simply clear your entire profile. It's more a backend issue, since I've been having problems with recent changes occasionally not posting to the dashboard since I started here. Plus, Neocities has a staff of probably 3, and there's almost 1m accounts now.

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saltedslug's avatar saltedslug 9 months ago

I agree ^^ definitely not censorship. The feed update queue has always been janky, as long as I've been here.

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wraithglade's avatar wraithglade 9 months ago

Thanks for the feedback and info badgraph1csghost and saltedslug!

New Review: Improper Stories by Saki (otherwise known as Hector Hugh Munroe)
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My friends.... I think I have completed what I want to see for now. I am going to try and update my neocities files and see what happens. 0.0
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yamiyuri's avatar yamiyuri 9 months ago

Added 'John Inglesant: A Romance' by J. H. Shorthouse to book log.

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feeling conflicted about putting the bell jar in my 'favourites' for my books page. there's so much i appreciate about it as a book but there's also so much which i find hard to accept (should i be accepting it?).
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lavenderblues's avatar lavenderblues 9 months ago

as someone who isn't the biggest fan of poetry, i don't know how i managed to have back-to-back-to-back reviews of poetry books

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Update 4: I have finally got the About Me page finished in a way I like it. The only thing left I want to do is get the Blog Post Navigation working. That Blog Nav has been "under construction" since day one.
I have a big announcement today, perhaps one of the biggest in my site's history so far: I have made the decision that I will be leaving to find a new host server for my site in the next couple weeks. That unfortunately means that we're on the tail end of my time here now. It wasn't a choice I was expecting to make so soon, but I stumbled upon the Neocities' creator's AI stance and will not support Neocities anymore.
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wraithglade's avatar wraithglade 9 months ago

I have posted a pretty long (at least 1 page) log entry going into my reasoning in greater depth. Boundary setting and standing on moral principle has become more important than ever in the past few years. I don't even feel like it is a "choice" anymore after what I stumbled upon today. I was apparently oblivous about to for a while. There is too much evidence of disingenous sophistry. My trust is about zeroed out.

wraithglade's avatar wraithglade 9 months ago

A person should not have to repeatedly be forced to migrate from place to place just to even have their most basic human rights as creators and thinking people respected, but here we are. These past several years have truly shown people's real colors. The one upside of theft-based AI systems is that they have become a very telling litmus test for people's morality or lack thereof. Convenience never justifes theft.

wraithglade's avatar wraithglade 9 months ago

On a more positive note though, this coming shift to new circumstances will enable yet more ground for expressing myself. In particular, it will become likely possible for me to implement my own suggestion of hosting a traditional forum, which is not possible really on Neocities. Other aspects of my outlook have also been improving lately in ways that matter, such sustaining and completing another creative project.

saltedslug's avatar saltedslug 9 months ago

I think you're really misconstrueing what Kyle said about this. He was talking about malicious services that masquerade as "AI crawl defense." Check this thread: https://bsky.app/profile/neocities.org/post/3lgbr3cld4k2z

wraithglade's avatar wraithglade 9 months ago

Nah, I wasn't talking about that "AI crawl defense" stuff really. My decision to leave was more about his whole dismissive attitude towards all anti-AI people. I read a bunch of the related stuff and got bad vibes in several respects. Also, the expectation that web masters need to add AI exclusions to protect themselves remains quite morally backwards. One shouldn't need to tell every thief not to steal from oneself.

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