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angeleyesprings's avatar angeleyesprings 1 year ago

I've been having similar thoughts on this subject. I don't agree with 100% of your takes... but I'm also concerned about where this is going. It kind of reminds me of crochet vs knitted pieces in a way. Crochet cannot be done by machine whereas knit obviously can. But both have so much value when lovingly crafted by human hands.

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angeleyesprings's avatar angeleyesprings 1 year ago

I'm also concerned about everything online becoming unverifiable, and AI flooding every site / search machine with slop (which is already happening). Tricky and nuanced subject.

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ongezell's avatar ongezell 1 year ago

Tbh, AI is just one of the symptons of late stage capitalism, even if AI wasn't a thing, shit had already hit the fan years ago. AI is just being used to replace people in sweatshops (mind you, not 100% yet because they still are still incapable of not producing slop)

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ongezell's avatar ongezell 1 year ago

Also, I don't agree with the AI thing being indistinguishable from an actual human made art, 9.99 out of 10, AI art will be slop, maybe, high quality slop, still SLOP. AI art is just aalgorithms consuming and regurgitating art that already exists. you can pretty much and I kid you not distinguish art made by AI to art made by a human. at least if you are a artist yourself.

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ongezell's avatar ongezell 1 year ago

Mega corporations will use whatever slop they can get to get those few cents of profit tho, it doesn't even need to look good. so looking realistic or passable isn't even a problem

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cidoku's avatar cidoku 1 year ago

@amy I'm aware of that and while it's true that it's a cause for concern, search engines being flooded with slop has been a thing since SEO's been a thing (obligatory thanks g**gle for ruining the internet), and the damage can't be repaired. That's why I didn't mention it.

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cidoku's avatar cidoku 1 year ago

@ongezell I'm not sure if it's 100% distinguishable. Yes, slop is slop no matter what, but with some slight taste you CAN generate stuff that looks legit. It's fortunate that most people who generate art aren't artists, and most importantly, have no taste.

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cidoku's avatar cidoku 1 year ago

@ongezell but here's the thing: most people aren't artists, so slop WILL end up winning out as it becomes easier to produce and especially more profitable to produce. "Consumers" don't care as long as it looks alright, and no creator will want or be able to compete against the endless, almost oppresive amount of slop! Unless... they prevail?

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cidoku's avatar cidoku 1 year ago

@ongezell then again I only have in mind people who do art for a living. Hobbyists will just keep on truckin no matter what since they don't depend on it.

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ongezell's avatar ongezell 1 year ago

My point is, AI is a symptom not a cause. I don't actually believe AI is that much of a threat to Us, the threat is in the hands of those developing it. I honestly don't see AI endangering us more than any of the existing average suspects (mega corporations) that being said I honestly don't believe AI will get better than this too honestly.

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ongezell's avatar ongezell 1 year ago

If you take a notice on all the AI technology being produced, it's honestly just a fancy search engine at best and even then it can get pretty bad, just look at google and chat gpt with their products. ChatGPT is hot garbage when it comes to anything that is actually just a little bit complicated, gemini? lmao Not to mention the amount of energy this shit consumes

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ongezell's avatar ongezell 1 year ago

I don't know how to describe it but everything about AI is just so pathetic to me it doesn't even makes me worried.

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cidoku's avatar cidoku 1 year ago

I do agree AI is a symptom of this lovely anti-human illness we have as a society. As for generative AIs being crap, I would tread with care. There's no way that what they show us is the best there is. Oh, also, I didn't want to mention the energy usage argument because it's always tackled to the end as an afterthought, never the main argument against this stuff.

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rbuchanan's avatar rbuchanan 1 year ago

You may have erred in assuming that one of several functional corollaries fatalistically determines an essence of technology. We can't know whether AI is a truly effective succedaneum for human intelligence until it produces genuinely substantive works. At present, its imitative faculties are superficially applied without any profundity of style or substance.

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rbuchanan's avatar rbuchanan 1 year ago

Ongezell observes that most AI is slop; I'd contend that one of many reasons why is that those who opt to use it professionally (whether mendaciously or otherwise) are perforce uninspired. It's an easy means. I'll always collaborate with human artists because no AI can illustrate my stories satisfactorily. In that regard, I am by no means special.

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cidoku's avatar cidoku 1 year ago

@rbuchanan you're right in that my wording implies that I determine the essence of technology from AI; this is not so. I meant it more generally; AI is not the first or the last in a long series of anti-human technologies. As ongezell mentioned, AI is just another symptom, but not the cause.

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NO GAY PEOPLE TOMORROW MORNING???????????? *sniff*
OMG UR SITE IS SO COOL LIKEE \(^_^)/
sm64 coop dx just updated and i cant join a SINGLE server bro
burhfart's avatar burhfart 1 year ago

god this update fucking sucks

burhfart's avatar burhfart 1 year ago

the loading times are more ass bro

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dc-blog's avatar dc-blog 1 year ago

The moment I'm 18, I'm putting "DNI If You're Under 18".

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satyrwoud's avatar satyrwoud 1 year ago

Back in my day we pretended to be 32-year-old nerds with jobs on the internet as kids and we *liked* it! :triumph:

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drawcia's avatar drawcia 1 year ago

^ Real, for the longest time I pretended to be +18 on the petsites I used to frequent because everyone else were adults lmao. On the following sites by minors, I guess it depends on the kind of site. I don't like associating with them, but if the site is impersonal (ie a portfolio, purely informative on a series, etc) I don't see much of a problem.

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cidoku's avatar cidoku 1 year ago

Yeah! I also lied about my age back then. Maybe kids don't care too much about it now since they were never taught to protect their identities to the extent we were, if at all.

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cidoku's avatar cidoku 1 year ago

@drawcia Sadly the sites I ended up following are personal. I don't think I'll unfollow them, because they seem "sane" enough, but I'll tread with care.

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ongezell's avatar ongezell 1 year ago

I wasn't expecting so many kids to be making their own websites here but there's a surprising amount of them

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satyrwoud's avatar satyrwoud 1 year ago

@ongezell I’ll be honest and say i was 13 when i first made my site — it’s a fun creative outlet that doesn’t need you to spend your pocket money on anything. (Then again, i had the sense not to put my entire medical history and personal details on there… 20YOWebmasterShakesFistAtCloud.webp)

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ongezell's avatar ongezell 1 year ago

I was too, but I guess at the time I was around adults way more than people my age lol here it seems that there's significantly more teens?

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cidoku's avatar cidoku 1 year ago

Well, I think it's good that they're making sites, anyway. They're willing to put in the effort to do so. Yeah, kids aren't stupid.

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rbuchanan's avatar rbuchanan 1 year ago

I'm among the oldest people known to me on this site, I'm indifferent to the ages of other users, and I'm not passing any baton to anyone because I'm going to outlive most, if not all of you.

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cidoku's avatar cidoku 1 year ago

@rbuchanan Be my guest. I'm content in my finitude.

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Que agradable pillarme a otro chileno por acá. Me leí el capítulo de tu webcomic y está genial, muy inspirador. Puse tu botón en mi página de enlaces. ¡Éxito!
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amapy's avatar amapy 1 year ago

^_^ gracias!

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I followed some of your tips at https://misterdizzy.neocities.org/blog/#responsive and, whew, my site really looks better on phones now. Nobody EVER told me it looked like crap before, damn! I swear, browsers should just assume some of that stuff. Anyway, thank you.
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misterdizzy's avatar misterdizzy 1 year ago

!!!! THANK YOU

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misterdizzy's avatar misterdizzy 1 year ago

I was hoping that would benefit someone striving for cross-compatibility. That's exactly what I was going for. Achievement unlocked.

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I'm thinking about replacing the "people" section in my links page with a more traditional button wall because it's taking up too much space! I'll move the descriptions to a different page
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rbuchanan's avatar rbuchanan 1 year ago

You could integrate them into each title attribute of the buttons' (A)nchors, subsequent to respective titles

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cidoku's avatar cidoku 1 year ago

I'm not a big fan of title attribute because it's not universal; that is, it's not compatible with every browser believe it or not. For example, textual browsers ignore them.

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reacting to the nintendo direct!!!!!
burhfart's avatar burhfart 1 year ago

ew mario and luigi

burhfart's avatar burhfart 1 year ago

ew zelda game

burhfart's avatar burhfart 1 year ago

FUNKO POP??????????????????????????

decided to make a rar of every unfinished song of mine (that isnt super unfinished) so uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh https://files.catbox.moe/0bykbv.rar
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burhfart's avatar burhfart 1 year ago

project files and oggs, even contains a .ogg of a newer revision of that finished song i mentioned eartlier (it just adds a crash) so uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh yeag

nahhhhhh bro i fell off brooooo what is this /j https://files.catbox.moe/uqpyvg.ogg
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chipsfunfun's avatar chipsfunfun 1 year ago

THIS GOES HARD IDK WHY BUT IT DOES

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burhfart's avatar burhfart 1 year ago

thanks!!!!

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