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Perhaps of interest to a few people here, this absolute time capsule of a website, http://www.melville.org/. Last revised July 25, 2000!
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nohappynonsense's avatar nohappynonsense 1 week ago

can't believe herman melville created his own site, pretty rad

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pixelglade's avatar pixelglade 1 week ago

that line.gif is something special

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ghostscape's avatar ghostscape 3 weeks ago

I like this, I've been meaning to try something similar for a while. My weak point is remembering projects I had ideas for but never got round to starting, and I think this could easily be adapted to work for that

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nohappynonsense's avatar nohappynonsense 3 weeks ago

appreciate the write up of the Bonelkasten system greatly. i'm on my third iteration of "put everything on cards" but i haven't yet found my system

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pixelglade's avatar pixelglade 3 weeks ago

I've gone through a few different organisation systems with varying success. At the moment there's a In-Progress and Previous foldee where each project has a folder. A project gets a folder when it has either a research document or reference images associated with it. A project I'm actively working on is on the Desktop layely and gets moved later. Concept or loose ideas are in a spreadsheet that I don't use enough.

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pixelglade's avatar pixelglade 3 weeks ago

Like you I'm still working on making a system to finish projects and maintain work on them. I like the idea of putting a dot on a paper to tick off some progress. I need to find something similar to keep me working on projects instead of adding them to the ever larger WIP pile. Mine is much larger than 10 unfortunately.

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oopsiedoodle's avatar oopsiedoodle 3 weeks ago

Like this idea a lot. I often forget about projects, including those that I really want to work on but don't in favor of completing easier projects. Something like your system would be a good way to remind myself.

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Gonna go on a writing retreat for a few days. I'll get no work on the website done but maybe I'll have some stuff to post when I get back.
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maxcrunch's avatar maxcrunch 3 weeks ago

that sounds very cool! have fun!

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zerock's avatar zerock 3 weeks ago

after the writing retreat comes the writing attack

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message received. will follow up.
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skep's avatar skep 3 weeks ago

The package is in transit. Do not reveal yourself until you receive the signal.

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hello bone mutilator, where is your rss feed for your website? thank you, mike v.
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emilynhoward's avatar emilynhoward 1 month ago

Thank you for the question. I don't have one because I uh *checks notes* never figured out how to set one up. But maybe I will look into it.

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nohappynonsense's avatar nohappynonsense 1 month ago

i created a bootleg as hell way to do it yourself if youre interested

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Thank you for the Christmas card! It arrived right on time. :) 🎄
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skep's avatar skep 1 month ago

Dang, I put that in the mail a week ago. Now I'm worried about all the ones I mailed after.

skep's avatar skep 1 month ago

(Just kidding, I'm a pro. My Christmas card recipient list is sorted by distance in descending order)

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nohappynonsense's avatar nohappynonsense 1 month ago

skep using his stamp collection, i see

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zerock's avatar zerock 1 month ago

surely I'll get my card any day now :)

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skep's avatar skep 1 month ago

If you don't, make sure to call the post office and complain

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emilynhoward's avatar emilynhoward 1 month ago

Did something different with my /now page. For those on mobile, you can click into the image and read. And yes, all of it is in alt text.

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smallcypress's avatar smallcypress 1 month ago

I am excited to see your creatives systems work, I am trying to make sense of mine right now too

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It occurs to me, I -have- seen custom HTML tags. Zendesk's knowledge base software uses them now; the WYSIWYG editor inserts them to power some of its functionality, but since they're unstyled containers they don't affect the published page.
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emilynhoward's avatar emilynhoward 1 month ago

I understand about 50% of what you're saying, so I'll take your word for it.

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skep's avatar skep 1 month ago

I could explain it in detail with images and code snippets and stuff but I'd need some sort of dedicated web space for that

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Website redesign is now underway. Expect to see it in a few months because I'm slow. The outward result will be simpler, but the code will be more solid, modern, and responsive.
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pixelglade's avatar pixelglade 1 month ago

Ooh, exciting. Any hints for how the changes will look?

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skep's avatar skep 1 month ago

As per our prior discussions, I am eager to see your take on "frutiger gothic".

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emilynhoward's avatar emilynhoward 1 month ago

@pixelglade I won't talk about specifics of the layout or colors because all of that might change, but I am looking for something simpler visually than the current layout, where the content feels a little more unbounded and bubbled than the current layout.

emilynhoward's avatar emilynhoward 1 month ago

@skep I have already desaturated the Windows 2000 desktop and photoshopped some headstones in.

Does anybody use custom HTML tags like in this article? https://matthewjamestaylor.com/custom-tags I am wondering about other people's experience with it.
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skep's avatar skep 1 month ago

I don't, but it makes sense to me, I vaguely recall that HTML and XML use a similar methodology and XML is basically nothing but made-up tags.

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skep's avatar skep 1 month ago

Biggest caveats I can think of would be to not replace semantic tags (which the article mentioned), and your code could be less intuitive for others to interpret (likely not a huge concern)

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irony-machine's avatar irony-machine 1 month ago

i don't use them, they feel wrong to me in a way i can't explain

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emilynhoward's avatar emilynhoward 1 month ago

@skep, Yeah the advice is not to replace the semantic tags, which I don't want to do. Problem is, even semantic tags like "section" and "article" can get really vague really fast when you're trying to figure out what is where. And since I insist on doing everything by hand I want my code to be more legible.

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emilynhoward's avatar emilynhoward 1 month ago

@irony-machine The only thing that feel really wrong to me is that you can use emoji (!!!) in them.

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myrtletribe's avatar myrtletribe 1 month ago

I tried this a while ago with a friend and we were stunned that it worked! but I haven't used them so far

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brachypelmide's avatar brachypelmide 1 month ago

really late to the party but i've used custom html tags myself and they work just fine. in fact, i've used them against the spec without any problems - before i redesigned my reviews page, each review was literally a element. no hyphen or anything, so they're not necessary, but you do run the risk of creating conflicts with existing semantic tags and potentially ones that could be added in the future.

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brachypelmide's avatar brachypelmide 1 month ago

ok it turns out neocities doesn't like parsing element-like text. i meant that "each review was literally a [review] element"

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emilynhoward's avatar emilynhoward 2 months ago

I know that everyone was waiting for me to issue a public statement, so here it is: the top 5 national dishes of the United States (and some honorable mentions.)

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pixelglade's avatar pixelglade 2 months ago

Dang I had no idea nachos is american. It's one of my favorite foods (and very easy to make animal-free)

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skep's avatar skep 2 months ago

PB&J had not occurred to me and now I have to reconsider my list.

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emilynhoward's avatar emilynhoward 2 months ago

@pixelglade It turns out that I misremembered. Nachos were invented on the Mexican side of the border to cater to the tastes of American restaurant customers. So pretty close. But have you tried the real game-changer: nacho tots???

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rusty-bytes's avatar rusty-bytes 2 months ago

I love everything about this list- now I want Jet's pizza

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altalenae's avatar altalenae 2 months ago

loved reading the list!! I had never heard of detroit style pizza (I’m italian lol), might try making it…

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pixelglade's avatar pixelglade 2 months ago

nacho tots - I haven't had it, but I know what tater tots are (in Australia we call them potato gems). Next time I buy some I'll give it a try

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emilynhoward's avatar emilynhoward 2 months ago

You call them potato gems???? This is the best thing I have ever heard. This is the best day of my life.

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nohappynonsense's avatar nohappynonsense 2 months ago

"yeah i'm a bit of a rockhound" "oh cool what have you found so far?" "potato gems, mostly"

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Friend, last night I watched the Keira Knightley Pride and Prejudice for the first time right after having re-read the book. This movie insulted my intelligence and I took it very personally. I will not dignify it with a post on my website trying to convince everyone what a piece of crap it is, but you may be someone who understands.
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skep's avatar skep 2 months ago

I... actually like it, for the most part. I remember you saying you thought it was one of Austen's weaker novels for its fairy-tale-ness, so I imagine it doesn't improve things if you have to trim out all the subtleties to fit it into a 2-hour runtime.

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skep's avatar skep 2 months ago

I will agree that the ending scene is really bad. It's so bad. I dread re-watching the movie because I don't want to be subjected to that scene again.

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emilynhoward's avatar emilynhoward 2 months ago

It's mostly that they took out the humor that was in the book and replaced it with their own bad humor. And cut out a lot of plot points to make room for random fancy shots of landscapes and statuary. And everybody was played so flat and subdued that it didn't make sense why any of the characters cared about each other.

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skep's avatar skep 2 months ago

Well if you make them hot then they don't need personality. Everyone knows this.

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pixelglade's avatar pixelglade 2 months ago

BBC Pride and Prejudice is superior. "Oh, my poor nerves!" Is what Mrs Bennett says when she sees the Kiera Knightly Pride and Prejudice.

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pixelglade's avatar pixelglade 2 months ago

Though, some of the casting choices weren't too terrible

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skep's avatar skep 2 months ago

I recognize I do actually have to watch that version at some point.

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emilynhoward's avatar emilynhoward 2 months ago

I think they could have gotten away with 5 hours instead of 6, but the BBC is much truer to the spirit of the book. They actually let people be funny and ridiculous.

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Congrats on 100 followers!! That's a cool milestone!
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emilynhoward's avatar emilynhoward 2 months ago

Thank you! ^-^

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I got your letter today! Will reply as existential crises allow.
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skep's avatar skep 3 months ago

That's reasonable, I'll check the mailbox in a couple years

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kolala's avatar kolala 3 months ago

Late to your original question, but how about using labels to be as a safe space? For instance, I have my pronouns in my site even though it doesn't make a difference to me. I'm a cis woman, so the default she/her works. And even if someone misgenders me, I wouldn't care because I have never suffered from it.

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kolala's avatar kolala 3 months ago

So in that case, rather than being a defensive thing, it's just to tell others that I'll respect their pronouns if they ever interacted with me. To try to make it safer for those who might be dealing with discrimination in other places. I rarely interact with others, but if there's a chance to make things a bit less hostile then it's worth it.

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kolala's avatar kolala 3 months ago

Bonus reason: some blinkies and stuff are just cute ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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pixelglade's avatar pixelglade 3 months ago

Agreed with Koala. Before I came out as trans, I didn't self-identify very much as anything online, in fact I preferred to hide it. But even coming against prejudice about being trans from even my own family and facing random abuse in public and online, self-identifying works as both indicating to others that I'm "in the know (e.g. about pronouns, etc)"/ am safe, and also practically works as a filter.

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pixelglade's avatar pixelglade 3 months ago

Also, I've poked around on the old web on archives of geocities and others, there was quite a lot of self-identification especially in the LGBTQ community, much as there still is today. I haven't looked at other communities but I suspect your observation on race, nationality, etc, are the same. When there's so much information online, choosing who to follow or spend time with is important, labels help with that

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ghostscape's avatar ghostscape 3 months ago

i think my thoughts are not comment-sized but: this topic is super interesting, your thoughts reflect a lot of my own feelings, and also the current comments are spot-on too. how I've felt about online labels over the years has maaassively changed and part of that is to do with the kind of privileges I have changing

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emilynhoward's avatar emilynhoward 3 months ago

@kolala Thanks for the perspective. Yeah, I think that different sites with different purposes use labels differently. For myself, I've had experiences where I thought I was a good ally and ended up causing harm, so I don't see myself as an expert on whether or not I'm a "safe" person. If someone is wondering if I am safe to approach, I would recommend that they read around my site a bit and decide for themselves.

emilynhoward's avatar emilynhoward 3 months ago

@pixelglade Several years ago, I got harrassed on the bus by someone claiming that they "couldn't tell" "what" I am. Shortly afterwards, I got some pride pins to put on my bag so nobody could claim to be confused about it and to take up space as a queer person. So I get that as a reason to self-label online. But to me there's a thin line between creating a community and creating an echo chamber in online spaces...

emilynhoward's avatar emilynhoward 3 months ago

...and that's the part that I'm still trying to figure out. I was not connected to the LGBTQ+ community in my early internet days, so I did not see the self-labeling happening there. My guess is that the practice started in small communities connecting around their identities and get got more mainstreamed over the years.

Another blog I follow also got a typewriter recently for seemingly similar reasons (as far as I can tell). They didn't use alt text unfortunately but they took a photo of the page they wrote for a blog post: https://jamesg.blog/2025/10/19/growth
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emilynhoward's avatar emilynhoward 3 months ago

Ooh, thanks for this! You can kind of see the starry-eyed wonder that typewriters invoke. I have so far decided not to post images of my typewriting because it would require both high-res images and lots of alt text. But maybe I will one day with short bits of text.

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pixelglade's avatar pixelglade 3 months ago

It might be possible to simplify the process of converting full-length pages of typewriter text to alt text using OCR like tesseract or something else, but even in that case, smaller segments will probably be easier. Personally I'd like to see an example of the text your typewriter produces, out of curiosity for how the letterforms look

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emilynhoward's avatar emilynhoward 3 months ago

My experiments so far with OCR have not worked out well. You'd think it would be easy for a computer to render typewriting into text, but the program I was using actually couldn't parse several of the letters. I will consider uploading some examples of text, though. Thanks for the suggesion!

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If everyone removed their social location labels from their site (nationality, race, age, gender, disability, etc.) would you browse Neocities differently? Would your own website be different? Just trying to think through the usefulness and limits of labels.
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nohappynonsense's avatar nohappynonsense 3 months ago

i was thinking lately i should update my about section, but when i just checked it i realized it is as bare bones as i'd like it to be while still existing and providing some navigation. i think labels are good for new visitors, to sort of orient themselves in a general direction of the author, but ultimately the writing/content of the site is where we truly learn about who's behind the html

barndoors's avatar barndoors 3 months ago

I'd judge way less while browsing. age range is the only stat I look for. no one does media queries here but you can't hate on a 14 yo's first chatgpt-less build

maxcrunch's avatar maxcrunch 3 months ago

self categorization is really important for me and I do self labeling as a way to get to know myself. sometimes you self label and then find out you're wrong. it's a harder question to answer for other people. for websites, I'm more into the style of expression than the actual person. although there are some people I followed only because they're only

maxcrunch's avatar maxcrunch 3 months ago

over 40* lol

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ghostscape's avatar ghostscape 3 months ago

I don't usually go looking for those tbh: it's useful to know gender if I'm going to refer to someone (even if just to myself) but I don't think I know the rest about most of you unless it comes up organically

ghostscape's avatar ghostscape 3 months ago

but then I am very into small-web anonymity. I've had enough of labels and minutely detailed self-branding as the cost of entry to a lot of social media and online spaces

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emilynhoward's avatar emilynhoward 3 months ago

Thanks for your responses @nohappynonsense @barndoors @maxcrunch @ghoatscape! I started typing my reply and realized that it was going to be way longer than a Neocities comment will allow, so I will try to put up a page on my site and link it here today or tomorrow. I appreciate all your perspectives.

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emilynhoward's avatar emilynhoward 3 months ago

I added some extracts from my journals. I don't know how you'll feel about it, but this is my favorite page that I've uploaded in a long time.

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maxcrunch's avatar maxcrunch 3 months ago

I love this, thank you for sharing your thoughts!

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nohappynonsense's avatar nohappynonsense 3 months ago

this is like a cheat code to skip out on my own notebook practice and just get all the good stuff from yours

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