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donovan-thought
4 months ago
why do so many people recommend what is to be done? that was just lenin being angry for 6 hours before briefly answering the question in the title and it was largely just applicable to 1900s russia
donovan-thought
4 months ago
well technically 4 hours because i have very little free time and was listening to an audiobook at 1.5x speed but still
lupinus
4 months ago
i liked it because it's sort of a glimpse into the active political discourse of the time that ends up revealing a lot more about late 1800s russian society than I ever wouldve endeavored to learn on my own. idk maybe it helps that it was referenced in Crime and Punishment lol
rattusgarden
4 months ago
on ur question: i grew up with traditions similar to Santa Claus for our New Years celebrations and to be honest i remember very fondly both the magic from the lie about a Santa-like figure and the process of figuring out that it was actually a holiday lie. there was something very exciting in testing the limits of the lie and organizing traps or tricks to try to catch "Santa" or my parents in the action
rattusgarden
4 months ago
despite that, i'm not really sure i'd feel comfortable straight up lying to children about it if i were to have my own !
elliotthepumpkin
4 months ago
hey August!! thank u sm for the insight! i did love santa as a child but i did not love learning the truth as much XD other children accusing my parents of lying to me?? preposterous... but my parents actually lying to me fr?? damn... so yeah XD love it in theory but i'm not so sure i'd be comfortable lying to my kids like that!
rattusgarden
4 months ago
i can definitely understand that X_) idk if you also relate but it took me a long time to figure out my parents were lying and realizing they're capable of that was very unnerving! other kids seemed to catch on quicker and i was defending them like "my parents would never!!" only to realize the Truth :))
lydels
4 months ago
the question is really interesting i never thought about it!! i actually remember feeling pretty sad and a little betrayed when i found out that santa wasn't real, AND i realized i don't have any memories at all from when i still belived it LOL so i guess the lie wasn't really worth it for me since i only got the bad memories...
lydels
4 months ago
i don't really see the lie as necessary honestly, kids are gonna be excited for christmas anyway so maybe i would try not to lie... hope other parents wouldnt kill me when my kids say that santa isnt real LOL
strawberry-transneu
4 months ago
if i were to have kids, id calmly explain where the tradition comes from. One of main reasons why i don't like it being a lie is due to knowing many people grow up poor or with parents who don't care and not quite knowing why mysterious Santa keeps gifting everyone generously but them!
strawberry-transneu
4 months ago
i think its sweet to let children know the truth and it's also a good way to show them you trust them . Children still grow up with sense of wonder in the world , because there's a lot of things that are fascinating by themselves and do not really require lying to feel magical! ❤️
strawberry-transneu
4 months ago
One thing i do like is letter writing to Santa though, because tradition of physical letter-writing is kind of dissapearing (even though its really beautiful, meaningful and fun!). I wonder if there would be a way to keep this aspect in some way without Santa being real though....
elliotthepumpkin
4 months ago
yes to both august and lydels on the feeling of betrayal upon finding out... i was indeed a big defender of my parents only telling me the truth :') but also agree with lydels saying hope other parents don't kill me.... thank u sm for answering my question!!
elliotthepumpkin
4 months ago
also thank you avrum for the insight, i hadn't really thought about the implications of growing up poor/neglected and seeing other kids get "better" presents from Santa... yeah no that sucks and I don't want that for anyone. I do agree on the letter writing, and I think it could be part of keeping the tradition alive in the "playing pretend" sense, which kids already do all the time and fully consider as magical <3
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