Neocities

4 months ago

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angeleyesprings 4 months ago

I've been having similar thoughts on this subject. I don't agree with 100% of your takes... but I'm also concerned about where this is going. It kind of reminds me of crochet vs knitted pieces in a way. Crochet cannot be done by machine whereas knit obviously can. But both have so much value when lovingly crafted by human hands.

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angeleyesprings 4 months ago

I'm also concerned about everything online becoming unverifiable, and AI flooding every site / search machine with slop (which is already happening). Tricky and nuanced subject.

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ongezell 4 months ago

Tbh, AI is just one of the symptons of late stage capitalism, even if AI wasn't a thing, shit had already hit the fan years ago. AI is just being used to replace people in sweatshops (mind you, not 100% yet because they still are still incapable of not producing slop)

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ongezell 4 months ago

Also, I don't agree with the AI thing being indistinguishable from an actual human made art, 9.99 out of 10, AI art will be slop, maybe, high quality slop, still SLOP. AI art is just aalgorithms consuming and regurgitating art that already exists. you can pretty much and I kid you not distinguish art made by AI to art made by a human. at least if you are a artist yourself.

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ongezell 4 months ago

Mega corporations will use whatever slop they can get to get those few cents of profit tho, it doesn't even need to look good. so looking realistic or passable isn't even a problem

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cidoku 4 months ago

@amy I'm aware of that and while it's true that it's a cause for concern, search engines being flooded with slop has been a thing since SEO's been a thing (obligatory thanks g**gle for ruining the internet), and the damage can't be repaired. That's why I didn't mention it.

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cidoku 4 months ago

@ongezell I'm not sure if it's 100% distinguishable. Yes, slop is slop no matter what, but with some slight taste you CAN generate stuff that looks legit. It's fortunate that most people who generate art aren't artists, and most importantly, have no taste.

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cidoku 4 months ago

@ongezell but here's the thing: most people aren't artists, so slop WILL end up winning out as it becomes easier to produce and especially more profitable to produce. "Consumers" don't care as long as it looks alright, and no creator will want or be able to compete against the endless, almost oppresive amount of slop! Unless... they prevail?

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cidoku 4 months ago

@ongezell then again I only have in mind people who do art for a living. Hobbyists will just keep on truckin no matter what since they don't depend on it.

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ongezell 4 months ago

My point is, AI is a symptom not a cause. I don't actually believe AI is that much of a threat to Us, the threat is in the hands of those developing it. I honestly don't see AI endangering us more than any of the existing average suspects (mega corporations) that being said I honestly don't believe AI will get better than this too honestly.

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ongezell 4 months ago

If you take a notice on all the AI technology being produced, it's honestly just a fancy search engine at best and even then it can get pretty bad, just look at google and chat gpt with their products. ChatGPT is hot garbage when it comes to anything that is actually just a little bit complicated, gemini? lmao Not to mention the amount of energy this shit consumes

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ongezell 4 months ago

I don't know how to describe it but everything about AI is just so pathetic to me it doesn't even makes me worried.

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cidoku 4 months ago

I do agree AI is a symptom of this lovely anti-human illness we have as a society. As for generative AIs being crap, I would tread with care. There's no way that what they show us is the best there is. Oh, also, I didn't want to mention the energy usage argument because it's always tackled to the end as an afterthought, never the main argument against this stuff.

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rbuchanan 4 months ago

You may have erred in assuming that one of several functional corollaries fatalistically determines an essence of technology. We can't know whether AI is a truly effective succedaneum for human intelligence until it produces genuinely substantive works. At present, its imitative faculties are superficially applied without any profundity of style or substance.

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rbuchanan 4 months ago

Ongezell observes that most AI is slop; I'd contend that one of many reasons why is that those who opt to use it professionally (whether mendaciously or otherwise) are perforce uninspired. It's an easy means. I'll always collaborate with human artists because no AI can illustrate my stories satisfactorily. In that regard, I am by no means special.

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cidoku 4 months ago

@rbuchanan you're right in that my wording implies that I determine the essence of technology from AI; this is not so. I meant it more generally; AI is not the first or the last in a long series of anti-human technologies. As ongezell mentioned, AI is just another symptom, but not the cause.

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evilgrandpa updated EvilGrandpa

4 months ago

EvilGrandpa

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sugarforbrains updated NOT FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION

4 months ago

art/af/2024/index.html

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turbuggy 4 months ago

I LOVE YOUR ART SM

alhajineo 4 months ago

i like the artstyle! also the oc just looks cool

superkirbylover updated Checkered Hell

4 months ago

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Checkered Hell

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burhfart

4 months ago

NO GAY PEOPLE TOMORROW MORNING???????????? *sniff*

abbys-notebook kitsunezero4

4 months ago

OMG UR SITE IS SO COOL LIKEE \(^_^)/

burhfart

4 months ago

sm64 coop dx just updated and i cant join a SINGLE server bro

burhfart 4 months ago

god this update fucking sucks

burhfart 4 months ago

the loading times are more ass bro

burhfart

4 months ago

already?????? https://nitter.poast.org/noizzmusic/status/1807920693348389047#m

cidoku updated The Cidoku Network

4 months ago

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dc-blog 4 months ago

The moment I'm 18, I'm putting "DNI If You're Under 18".

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satyrwoud 4 months ago

Back in my day we pretended to be 32-year-old nerds with jobs on the internet as kids and we *liked* it! :triumph:

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drawcia 4 months ago

^ Real, for the longest time I pretended to be +18 on the petsites I used to frequent because everyone else were adults lmao. On the following sites by minors, I guess it depends on the kind of site. I don't like associating with them, but if the site is impersonal (ie a portfolio, purely informative on a series, etc) I don't see much of a problem.

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cidoku 4 months ago

Yeah! I also lied about my age back then. Maybe kids don't care too much about it now since they were never taught to protect their identities to the extent we were, if at all.

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cidoku 4 months ago

@drawcia Sadly the sites I ended up following are personal. I don't think I'll unfollow them, because they seem "sane" enough, but I'll tread with care.

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ongezell 4 months ago

I wasn't expecting so many kids to be making their own websites here but there's a surprising amount of them

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satyrwoud 4 months ago

@ongezell I’ll be honest and say i was 13 when i first made my site — it’s a fun creative outlet that doesn’t need you to spend your pocket money on anything. (Then again, i had the sense not to put my entire medical history and personal details on there… 20YOWebmasterShakesFistAtCloud.webp)

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ongezell 4 months ago

I was too, but I guess at the time I was around adults way more than people my age lol here it seems that there's significantly more teens?

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cidoku 4 months ago

Well, I think it's good that they're making sites, anyway. They're willing to put in the effort to do so. Yeah, kids aren't stupid.

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rbuchanan 4 months ago

I'm among the oldest people known to me on this site, I'm indifferent to the ages of other users, and I'm not passing any baton to anyone because I'm going to outlive most, if not all of you.

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cidoku 4 months ago

@rbuchanan Be my guest. I'm content in my finitude.

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charpine updated the 100% official charpine website

4 months ago

the 100% official charpine website

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evilgrandpa alu-weltmajster

4 months ago

thanks for the toon! I've uploaded it here: https://evilgrandpa.neocities.org/brokenTV

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superkirbylover updated Checkered Hell

4 months ago

Checkered Hell

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sugarforbrains

4 months ago

fight me on artfight dis year https://artfight.net/~bennyshaped

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evilgrandpa updated EvilGrandpa

4 months ago

cidoku amapy

4 months ago

Que agradable pillarme a otro chileno por acá. Me leí el capítulo de tu webcomic y está genial, muy inspirador. Puse tu botón en mi página de enlaces. ¡Éxito!

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amapy 4 months ago

^_^ gracias!

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cidoku misterdizzy

4 months ago

I followed some of your tips at https://misterdizzy.neocities.org/blog/#responsive and, whew, my site really looks better on phones now. Nobody EVER told me it looked like crap before, damn! I swear, browsers should just assume some of that stuff. Anyway, thank you.

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misterdizzy 4 months ago

!!!! THANK YOU

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misterdizzy 4 months ago

I was hoping that would benefit someone striving for cross-compatibility. That's exactly what I was going for. Achievement unlocked.

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cidoku

4 months ago

I'm thinking about replacing the "people" section in my links page with a more traditional button wall because it's taking up too much space! I'll move the descriptions to a different page

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rbuchanan 4 months ago

You could integrate them into each title attribute of the buttons' (A)nchors, subsequent to respective titles

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cidoku 4 months ago

I'm not a big fan of title attribute because it's not universal; that is, it's not compatible with every browser believe it or not. For example, textual browsers ignore them.

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burhfart

4 months ago

reacting to the nintendo direct!!!!!