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koshka
4 years ago
Excellent rebuttal. I admit I only skimmed the original article because it came off to me as the ramblings of a confused tumblrina, but I am in agreeance with the majority of your points here. While I do agree with you about the decline in creativity on 4chan, I would hesitate to label /pol/'s users as NORPs; everything that modern /pol/ stands for is the polar opposite of what the entire media/education propaganda
koshka
4 years ago
complex has been pushing on everyone for 75 years and counting. I agree with you 100% about normalfag or NORP being better than the friendly and lame 'normie' word. So far as I remember it, GamerGate was the point that showed that 4chan was slowly becoming controlled opposition. I remember being banned from 4chan just for speaking out against the censorship going on back then.
lolwut
4 years ago
Thanks, koshka, but I would not truly consider this a rebuttal of Froge's article; I would characterize it more like a further exploration of some of the topics raised in the original, containing both praise, criticism, and neutral comments. The closest it ever gets to a rebuttal is in the entry for Cripplechan, but that isn't the whole piece.
lolwut
4 years ago
I would also urge you to read through the original article, as it's a good piece, even if at times it clearly veers from being neutral. Also, you should know that when I use the label "NORP", I am describing more than just the person's politics; thus somebody might be very much against the mainstream in terms of their political beliefs, but still have otherwise "normal" habits, tastes, attitudes, goals, etc.
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Good read. I too askew smartphones in favor of the desktop for my computinmg needs.
I never saw this video, but your account reminds me of those bundled with Windows 95 and 98, such as the tiny trailer for Caton-Jones' middling filmic adaptation of "Rob Roy." Dell's support for their older models is unparalleled, esp. compared to that of derelict manufacturers like HP.
I'm almost as partial to Dells as to Lenovos. For XMas, Annusya bought me a refurbished Optiplex 7010 that runs beautifully (now that FreBSD is installed thereto), and after 18 years, I still use a Dimension 4500S on which OpenBSD is installed for storage, and as an occasional server.
Incidentally, the Internet would be a better place if smartphones primarily accessed services via a protocol designed and optimized solely for mobile devices.
Lenovo and HP, I would say, are also very fine PC vendors, though I especially like Dell simply because it happened that I ended up using one of their PCs (the Dimension 8400) for most of the 2000s. (And running some non-Windows OS on those old Dell models, when Windows is what they originally shipped with? How could you, Robert...)
Very late in commenting on this, but I just wanted to say that I loved this article. I too still reject the idea of smartphones being the future, since they are inherently inferior and restrictive devices compared to PCs. Ever since smartphones became dominant, it feels as if we are no longer moving forth into a bold future, but instead regressing.
koshka, I don't know if you'll see this, but I agree entirely with that sentiment; smartphones are what you use as a temporary computing substitute, for those unfortunate times when you are unable to use a PC. I am also reminded of this image: https://i.imgur.com/IcWEpu2.jpg