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jnkyrd joejoefashosho

11 months ago

thank you for the myspcae file youre a genius and a life saver

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rabbitnet

11 months ago

When people are looking through background masterposts and such, do you prefer the backgrounds to be ordered based on theme/topic or colour?

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rabbitnet 11 months ago

(I'm addicted to making tiled backgrounds rn, so I'm gonna be expanding the materials section of my site soon in a big way)

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traversetown 11 months ago

Probably theme

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maehat 11 months ago

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hardmachine

11 months ago

I'm not leaving Neocities because staying on here isn't any different from how everyone is glued to worse shitholes like Twitter, but feel free to share other free alternative hosts besides Nekoweb/Leprd + have an RSS feed on your new sites so I can continue following.

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hardmachine 11 months ago

I had pretty extreme schizo-tier opinions on AI in 2022, but now I've just accepted it as an evil that needs to be regulated instead of gone completely. Drakey wakey already had a Daria-themed AI chatbot for April fool's this year, so I kinda been knew he's okay with AI. As long as our sites aren't going to be scraped by him (not Google, it already does that) I can't really care.

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hardmachine 11 months ago

I'm also still on hiatus so ofc I only found this out from checking my feed and seeing people talk about leaving 😭

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helianthus-fields 11 months ago

wait whats going on?

angeleyesprings 11 months ago

@helianthus-fields https://kyledrake.com/writings/ai Some are leaving because of this blog entry

hardmachine 11 months ago

Peoplr just now discovered Kyle Drake's (old) post that's optimistically supportive of AI and jumping ship. https://kyledrake.com/writings/ai

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chantolove 11 months ago

wait, THIS post is what people are talking about? this is like two years old

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mrszenigata 11 months ago

Neocities has felt very odd lately ever since that article resurfaced. Personally, I agree with you that it's something that needs to be regulated, but as much as we try to deny this tech it's always going to exist. I'm going to keep my site here, unless something happens where they implement some kind of code generator onto the platform that was clearly built on the hardwork of the users. (1)

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mrszenigata 11 months ago

I am so tired of site owners acting like all user-based content belongs to them. I don't understand why the developers of this technology don't use royalty free or public domain content, anyone can use that! (2)

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virtualyellow 11 months ago

re:hosts there's Teacake as well!

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hardmachine 11 months ago

My personal 9/11 (joking) was when DeviantART introduced AI and initially had everyone's art opted-in for training, I hope NC never gets evil but that's my personal straw. Drake's a techbro so he's going to have a positive view on AI for other usages besides "art"/writing. I don't love the post but it's an optimistic curiosity than "art theft and deepfakes are cool" bullshit.

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hardmachine 11 months ago

Also, I thought Teacake was invite-only? I know one person migrated there by asking, so it can't hurt.

sakana 11 months ago

Oh man, DeviantART... I spent so many years batting for them. It was the only active place on the web that was ACTUALLY optimized for art (I had gripes with artists posting exclusively to social media and forcing me to look at compressed, muddy versions of their art sandwiched between posts that eroded my faith in humanity). I don't like the opinion expressed in the post, but if there are no plans to introduce >

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sakana 11 months ago

< generative AI tools on here, I'll live.

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11 months ago

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rabbitnet

11 months ago

Yes, I've seen the AI blog post by Kyle. It's so missing the forest for the trees, it's hilarious. Nobody is complaining about machine learning being used in niche, highly-specialised circumstances. And nobody is saying they're as dangerous as nuclear weapons, wtf kind of comparison is that? But we are concerned about the effect it will have on creative industries and the web at large..

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rabbitnet 11 months ago

I came to NeoCities partially because Elon Musk ruined Twitter. And part of that rot comes from ChatGPT and other LLM being used to create bots and spam on a scale never seen before, a system that social media algorithms implicitly support. They're bringing about the death of human interaction and human creativity.

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rabbitnet 11 months ago

I'm probably not gonna move to Nekoweb, although it is tempting, anytime soon. I'm too busy with uni (ironically, creating art pieces about ChatGPT and how much I despise it) and can't be bothered to change all my links. Plus, the blog post is from 2023. Maybe his thoughts have changed? But I am eyeing up Nekoweb with increasing intensity

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11 months ago

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ballonlea

11 months ago

Fuck Kyle Drake

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ballonlea 11 months ago

(Context for those who need it https://kyledrake.com/writings/ai )

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ballonlea 11 months ago

Who wants to use this site's open source code to make an alternate hosting? :3

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remblanc 11 months ago

this writeup is from more a year ago and it's clearly not addressing the typical AI skeptics that have a much stronger case these days, but rather the tech doomsday cultists of the time that are deserving of just as much ridicule than the AI pushers.

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remblanc 11 months ago

The backdrop was also most certainly this letter, which was all about the whole corporate lobbying and the AI PR about how the technology is supposedly dangerous because it "will result in AGI" and thus it has to be monopolized by large corpos to have free reign over it: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/mar/29/elon-musk-joins-call-for-pause-in-creation-of-giant-ai-digital-minds

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willdotjpg

11 months ago

kind of considering moving from neocities to nekoweb because i don't want to support someone who is in favor of generative AI, but i don't know if i like it enough to be a patron. i've been on neocities for so long and have really built up this site, so moving is a big deal. plus i don't want to lose all my mutuals. aaaa, idk.

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mystsaphyr 11 months ago

Content-wise, moving my site was a matter of 2 clicks. Domain wasn't too hard to swap either. But I feel you on the social aspect. I wish nekoweb still had something like user feeds.

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owthehedge 11 months ago

man this sucks :( genuinely contemplating what to do here, think I might move though honestly - I'll miss the social aspect of neocities but I dont wanna support this shit