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What a good read!! That is something that I, too, have considered when making my layout. In this day and age, more people are viewing media on mobile devices. Yeah, it's a heck lot more coding but it makes the mobile user experience much more easy and accessible.

I agree with a lot of the points you bring up in this article! I think in some ways this is an example of nostalgia goggles - e.g. "what is old (and nostalgic to me) is better" prevents people from seeing that there can really be some benefits to more modern web development, e.g. increased accessability or responsive design.

Great words! I take it into consideration when desigining layouts for my pages, but they could be better. That means writing extra lines of code, but that's okay. Also, runegod brought up a good point: settling for a PC display-based design out of nostalgia, avoiding the "newer' mobile display concept. I'm guilty of this as well, because I like to work with the width.

thank you guys for the comments! i agree with runegods point where we /do/ have the tools to make a more accessible web, its just not as easy to realize considering how neocities is many users first dive into html. im hoping that bringing forward these features they can be more widely used, or at the very least lead people to discover more features on their own

like, did you know there is a query to detect if the user is using dark mode? therefore allowing someone to make a whole darkmode sheet? im hoping to implement this soon just for my own sake since i love multiple colorschemes, but this was found through digging in documentation! https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/@media/prefers-color-scheme

I suppose i'm one to go against the grain here, I personally leave out anything mobile friendly. But i've done all that before, designed for the modern web. I quickly left it all behind, and a big part of me joining neocities was to get back to old web. I feel the time, love and effort I spend making my site, needs to be enjoyed on a PC, not while you're doing other things.

But, I also don't have anything against designing for mobile, if that's what someone wants to do, this is a personal preference for me, sort of like a detox, put down the phone, relax and enjoy the web.

i think another aspect is (at least on neocities/similar) designing for mobile just isn't enjoyable. i added a "mobile mode" not long ago, and it's just too small a screen to do anything fun with

i understand your points too, enflicted and zeus. though im not advocating everyone to had a dedicated mobile layout that perfectly fits the width of mobile dimensions. however in the case of your sites, there is still no conflicts in accessing links even when i view your websites on my phone, and that is mainly what im addressing, which is the ability to still See the content even on mobile, which requires-

knowing that your content is "coded" "well" for it to not effectively break when its shown on a non-native (as in your personal desktop) resolution. it doesnt have to be the same experience or enjoyable, but i think it should still be accessible. thank you guys for the comments though, i love having these sorts of discussions