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Hi everyone! As of typing this, the petition has 69 signatures and 75 days until it closes. What would you all say to changing the petition's close date to June 2nd? It is a date significant because it will be the 1 year anniversary of Kyle making the blog post about AI.
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transferns 2 weeks ago

that makes sense to me!

krystalspalace 2 weeks ago

I support it either way!

badgraph1csghost 2 weeks ago

If the AI features are being actively worked on right now, the petition needs to close before the changes go into effect. Though it's not clear when that will be, setting the date that far out runs the risk of the changes being implemented before the petition closes.

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astrossoundhell 2 weeks ago

Tina makes a good point. On a second thought, June is half a year away.. maybe 2-3 months more would be enough

What a shameful positon for Neocities to take. There's so many resources to learn to code! I started at 10 or 11 on Neopets, so there is no way that grown adults can not teach themselves to code. There is NO excuse for the use of AI.
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We have hit 50 signatures! Big shout out to everyone that has signed and those who have been spreading the word!
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Website layout change (runs away)... it's a lot simpler now but I like it more since I actually know what I'm doing... I hope it's alright TToTT
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I randomly found this and I'm sure glad that I did. It was news to me that they're trying to integrate AI for a platform that is for creatives and web revival, given that it was evident of the harms not only with copyrighted works but also with the environment. I hope more people will see this and sign it--we can't let this be more likely to be applied.
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Is there any particular reason you paid for the supporter role
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ai-petition 4 weeks ago

Yes, it was for my personal site, a shrine/fansite, and my group's website. I am currently testing the waters on nekoweb with my personal site but in the mean time I have to keep paying for supporter for the other two sites. It's also very useful to have this site so I can spread the word on the platform directly instead of doing so off platform.

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When signing the petition, please use a valid neocities username otherwise I have to remove your signature! I would have made the petition just require a email address but the neocities username field is there for verification purposes because this is supposed to be a petition signed by people with a neocities account.
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krystalspalace 4 weeks ago

I hope I entered mine correctly!

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ai-petition 4 weeks ago

Yeah there is caps there, I'll have to remember to fix your username when I add the signatures to the list I send to Kyle.

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A petition on Google Forms? How would this even work? AI isn't even implemented officially in Neocities, and there's no evidence it will ever be.
meowco 1 month ago

As if the creator of this host site would be interested in using AI for something as intricate as web design and HTML/CSS coding.

chipsfunfun 1 month ago

...yeah... I kinda agree with this I'm sorry y'all, if AI gets implemented and scrapes stuff I'll leave but it doesn't seem to be happening now or planned. hope not at least

ai-petition 4 weeks ago

If you read what is stated on the home page, you'll find the reasons why this petition started and why there are people signing it. Just stating that something isn't the case and will never be seems to be glossing over if not outright ignoring that.

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ai-petition 4 weeks ago

which is funny because there has already been AI on the site in the past and the idea is only "on hold" as of 3 months ago.

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ai-petition 4 weeks ago

@meowco they already have implimented it in the past

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ai-petition 4 weeks ago

As for how the petition works: signatures end January 18th 2025, signatures get sent to Kyle Drake on January 19th or 20th.

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foureleven 4 weeks ago

... So at the end of the day, it's still up to Kyle to manage his webhost how he wants. Got ittttttt

foureleven 4 weeks ago

Like I'm not meaning to sound mean here, but this literally makes no difference, Kyle Drake already knows most people don't want AI on Neocities.

ai-petition 4 weeks ago

If the petition does well and Kyle decides to ignore it and add AI back anyways, there will likely be even more of a migration from this site to alternatives and self hosted webservers. You are correct that Kyle gets that final say on the matter however it's not really a wise idea to ignore something like this if you don't want to upset your community.

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moonview 4 weeks ago

my question in all of this is who even uses the built-in neocities editor enough to be upset about this? i didn't even know kyle had introduced one because i haven't opened up the built-in editor since... 2018 maybe?

ai-petition 4 weeks ago

So far there has been 39 people who have signed the petition so at the very least? 39. Keep in mind that number is growing pretty fast.

Hello, people reading this! Do *you* want to keep Neocities free from Generative AI? If so, you should go sign this petition (and share this petition so others know about it!)
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