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>lukal What do you mean? If you have seen something, it is already in your subconscious. That is outside your control. Not a criticism. Just curious.
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lukal
2 weeks ago
Fascinating ideas, especially the one on eternal diary. I'll definitely have that cooking in my subconscious for a while!
>benny1548132 To write something since there are still some big misunderstandings, when I write "Hellenism" instead of "Classical Greek", you should think of Alexandria in Ptolemaic Egypt rather than the main land Greece. And its famous scholars like Euclid. Or not yet that period, but Pythagoras who studied in Egypt. It was the center of the Hellenistic world and also the center of the early Christianity.
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>benny1548132 Of course it's Ελλάδα and not Greece there. I know that as a common sense. And doesn't "Hellas" mean rather the people than the country? It's nothing special than España and Spain. "Hispanic" has a totally different meaning in that case.
benny1548132
2 weeks ago
i'm not really talking about the names of things....maybe i should articulate my point more clearly; i'm just here observing how a lot of people assign the origin of a lot of Western thought/theory to a nation that isn't all that Western in nature. i see philosophy nerds idolize only certain aspects of a whole culture. it's weird, how it gets diluted/remembered/forgotten. that's all.
kaa
2 weeks ago
I can't comment on the validity of benny's strawman. I can comment on benny's underlying point. The Greeks were Indo-European migrants, who were very comfortable with aggregating ideas from other cultures. Not so many of their ideas were original, but it is through them that those ideas were forwarded to following cultures. Our recordings of where ideas come from will never have the depth of ephemeral reality.
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>benny1548132 I know what you mean. But in English "Hellenism" means the specific period of the world (Not only Greece, but also Egypt, Persia, India, &c.) that starts with Alexander the great and ends with the Islamisation of those countries. Classical Athens &c. were not "Hellenistic". They were just Greek. In contrast, Romans were "Hellenistic" even though they were Latin.
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benny1548132
2 weeks ago
you might never believe what people who live in Greece, now, call Greece...
benny1548132
2 weeks ago
augh, i give up on trying to sound sarcastic, i bet i sound like an asshole. i'm sorry. it's "Hellas" (but not spelled/pronounced like that, y'know). as in, still Hellenic.
>kaa Though it is my personal interpretation of some parts of Hermetica. And the examples obviously came from the Orthodox church. Well Hermeticism is a Greco-Egyption religion anyway. And the Orthodox church is a cultural heritage directly descending from the Roman empire.
>kaa It's a general Hellenistic way of thinking. You would understand it better if you think of ancient Greek statues when you read "Art" from the post. It's that worldview. I wrote the post while thinking of the mathematical beauty of the human body in those statues.
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>Recursive People compose music, draw an art, write a poem, &c. because of the exact same reason.
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