dabric
2 days ago
hm interactions... the fedi is a bit lacking with art, but people still very much engage with it (like, my most popular posts are my art). i'd say it's more personal posts about happenings and hobbies, though. people tend to reply more, i think. maybe not a lot more than bluesky, but still more
dabric
2 days ago
also: i've heard people say otherwise when mastodon was initially popular, but the server/instance you choose matters greatly. it determines the people you first see, the people that first see you, what the algorithm can recommend, and the moderators. i started off on wetdry.world, which i think was a pretty good starting point, and much of the people there also dabble with the indieweb
amaxivermis
2 days ago
it's alright, I still wouldn't have my account as a place for my content primarily since I've got my homepage and I know i've made that massive rant about microblogging as art galleries but I do want to have more places for reach, I know about the merping.synth.download instance and maybe it might be a good starting point, but you can expand some more if you want and hopefully your headache is better
amaxivermis
2 days ago
I have also been sitting down about bluesky and while I have moved off it given how i have seen it change, one of the main reasons why i kinda moved off it was that interaction part, although i dont know if ill return given my previous stuff but i might think about it some more anyways
amaxivermis
1 week ago
But even with everyone else being different then I can still be myself and I still have had the stuff you find on my stuff I was really into since the very start
tabf5
1 week ago
I think it's like a combination of the amount of people on here being so low, so you value the interactions on here a lot more, mixed with the fact that there are infinite ways to build a website vs the two pictures you can set on a standard social media profile. Also all the people on here have the patience to build a website at all, making interactions super-rewarding. It all works so damn good together
amaxivermis
1 week ago
Oh yeah making a website takes time but in hindsight it's actually a good thing. I have also personally started growing a distain of discord servers including one of my friends (no offense, he's cool) but to me it feels like nobody really cares about you until a certain point in those places and I'm someone who gives up very easily when I keep failing with no progress, but here it's like we're all in this together
vermi1ion
5 days ago
I think a part of the appeal is that the barrier to entry is pretty high (knowing html/css, designing a layout, etc.). It feels like everyone on here appreciates each other a lot more because of how much effort we're all putting into our creations. Anyone can post on IG or Twitter but it takes a lot to make a custom site.
win1999
5 days ago
Neocities is great. It somehow manages to pull off the old web while still having a very basic social media implementation.
amaxivermis
1 week ago
Ayy I'm glad you liked my website :) and also your website was great too, I liked the interactivity of it and thank you for the follow back too!
amaxivermis
1 week ago
A new blog post, very ranty one but it's important to me and if you're very into art it's a good read for you
amaxivermis
1 week ago
also got rss feeds for blog, art, and fun mini stuff or whatever too if you haven't figured just yet
tabf5
1 week ago
Absolutely agreed on how bad it is when artists just store their primary entire gallery on a microblogging site that forces you to make an account half the time, mixed in with all their other personal posts and retweets and everything. I've had multiple different projects on those older sites beforehand in the past decade, and it would always end in burnout because the individual posts on there slowly dont matter. It
tabf5
1 week ago
becomes a game of how-often-can-you-post to stay seen by others and not drown in the noise of everyone else doing the same thing. I get why it would be overwhelming for an artist to build their own gallery like a Neocities page, but they should definitely at least have an account elsewhere to browse the art like Newgrounds/Cara/others you mentioned. Also I still think RSS is too clunky but perhaps I've been spoiled
tabf5
1 week ago
by how good the Neocities feed is. Ultimately I think the best solution for artists in the long term is new platforms like Neocities and Toyhouse and such, where they have to keep trying even if it seems like microblogging apps are the only apps to give a shit about. All microblogging apps are doomed to eventually become the shouting war other mainstream platforms are. YouTube is also slightly guilty of this
amaxivermis
1 week ago
@tabf5 yeah I agree with you on toyhouse, newgrounds, etc being the best option since most artists don't have the skill of maintaining a website, although it's a great solution if you do which I have. And yeah i have to admit RSS is a little clunky, particularly with setting up but for me it's infinitely better than having to make many accounts just to stay in touch with the stuff I care about.
amaxivermis
1 week ago
Either way, i think we can all agree that having to create accounts just to see information is terrible, and the problems with microblogging with you and I have faced very similar problems with you too on some microblogging sites as well, sure some are better than others, but none of them are really meant to be for art
amaxivermis
1 week ago
I kinda misread neocities as newgrounds oops, but I still think the point applies, although either way whichever solution works best for each artist is the one that should be done
tabf5
1 week ago
Pro tip btw: you can edit any Twitter link to xcancel .com to view profiles and tweet replies without having to make a stupid account!
amaxivermis
1 week ago
Oh yeah i've been using nitter for quite a while, it's a massive live saver and thank god they revived it
amaxivermis
1 week ago
Not much, but added in the increment button, you should click it every time you visit
amaxivermis
1 week ago
nope, not anymore :> whoever did that you got defeated unless you're the same person clicking the increment all this time
(not mine, it's amby's, but I made him come up with one :>)